From silentben37 at hotmail.com Sun Mar 1 16:13:51 2009 From: silentben37 at hotmail.com (Tim Brosnan) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 00:13:51 +0000 Subject: [CamRI] FW: [North East Region] Providence Folks: Urgent Help Needed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Tim Brosnan > Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:03:12 -0500 > From: wendy.suzanne at gmail.com > To: us-ne-region at cammail.white-wolf.com > Subject: [North East Region] Providence Folks: Urgent Help Needed > > My flights from SERE home to Boston were cancelled: the best that > Delta can do is getting me to Providence tonight -- which is still > iffy. > > If there is anyone who could pick me up at the Providence airport and > give me a place to crash, PLEASE CALL me at 571-201-5341 > > At present, I am not scheduled to arrive until midnight, but that might change. > > I do have a hotel lined up at the airport if needed, but if I can > avoid having to pay for that, all the better. > > Alternatively, any BOSTON folks wanna drive down to Providence to collect me?? > > My online access is a little sketchy right now -- those who could > help, please call me instead. > > -- > Wendy Misuinas > US2002021570 > _______________________________________________ > Us-ne-region mailing list > Us-ne-region at cammail.white-wolf.com > http://cammail.white-wolf.com/mailman/listinfo/us-ne-region _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? 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URL: From dimmak at camarillaprovidence.org Sun Mar 1 18:05:05 2009 From: dimmak at camarillaprovidence.org (James A Ruggiero) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 21:05:05 -0500 Subject: [CamRI] [North East Region] Providence Folks: Urgent Help Needed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3D10B14338A44F75BB2189B700E7EE0A@KOR1> I left a Voice mail for Wendy, but if anyone else gets to her first. We can put Wendy up and get her if needed. 401-439-0050 - Jim James Ruggiero US2002023492 -----Original Message----- From: us-ne-region-bounces at cammail.white-wolf.com [mailto:us-ne-region-bounces at cammail.white-wolf.com] On Behalf Of Wendy Sent: March 1, 2009 4:03 PM To: us-ne-region Subject: [North East Region] Providence Folks: Urgent Help Needed My flights from SERE home to Boston were cancelled: the best that Delta can do is getting me to Providence tonight -- which is still iffy. If there is anyone who could pick me up at the Providence airport and give me a place to crash, PLEASE CALL me at 571-201-5341 At present, I am not scheduled to arrive until midnight, but that might change. I do have a hotel lined up at the airport if needed, but if I can avoid having to pay for that, all the better. Alternatively, any BOSTON folks wanna drive down to Providence to collect me?? My online access is a little sketchy right now -- those who could help, please call me instead. -- Wendy Misuinas US2002021570 _______________________________________________ Us-ne-region mailing list Us-ne-region at cammail.white-wolf.com http://cammail.white-wolf.com/mailman/listinfo/us-ne-region From ricamgirl at yahoo.com Mon Mar 2 12:25:39 2009 From: ricamgirl at yahoo.com (Melissa McDowell) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 12:25:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CamRI] need your help Message-ID: <527682.99417.qm@web59706.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Hi everyone, I was wondering if anyone had the?old reports from April -?October of 2005.? We have a member who is looking for?them. ?Thank you for your time, Melissa McDowell US2004082008 DC RI-002 dc at camarillaprovidence.org ricamgirl at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From ricamgirl at yahoo.com Tue Mar 3 05:22:03 2009 From: ricamgirl at yahoo.com (Melissa McDowell) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 05:22:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CamRI] prestige requests Message-ID: <13888.99743.qm@web59705.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Just a reminder all prestige requests are due by today. ?Thank you for your time, Melissa McDowell US2004082008 DC RI-002 dc at camarillaprovidence.org ricamgirl at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From likecaesar at gmail.com Tue Mar 3 06:56:11 2009 From: likecaesar at gmail.com (likecaesar at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:56:11 +0000 Subject: [CamRI] Prestige Requests Message-ID: <966001030-1236092137-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-178548634-@bxe1091.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Good Morning, I know these should only be sent to the DC, but I couldn't resist. I am pleased to request the following for the first time in almost FIVE YEARS: Organization Attending A Domain Meeting- 5g Also, Seth donated drinks as well as site hosting. He should remember that when he submits his prestige. HAGD, Jon Have A Great Day, Jonathan McDowell, Sr. US2002045163 IC: Julius Carver Daeva x1 Carthian x1 City (Providence) x2 From tkitch at gmail.com Tue Mar 3 08:51:58 2009 From: tkitch at gmail.com (Mike ''Thrasher'' Kitchenman) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 11:51:58 -0500 Subject: [CamRI] Prestige Requests In-Reply-To: <966001030-1236092137-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-178548634-@bxe1091.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <966001030-1236092137-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-178548634-@bxe1091.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: *Pets Jon on the head* There, there, it'll be ok.... -Kitch US2007039619 ADC Legacy ARC Admin NERE Second (I've never claimed that in the Cam, either...) On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 9:56 AM, wrote: > Good Morning, > > I know these should only be sent to the DC, but I couldn't resist. > I am pleased to request the following for the first time in almost FIVE YEARS: > > Organization > Attending A Domain Meeting- 5g > > Also, Seth donated drinks as well as site hosting. He should remember that when he submits his prestige. > > HAGD, > Jon > Have A Great Day, > > Jonathan McDowell, Sr. > US2002045163 > IC: Julius Carver > Daeva x1 > Carthian x1 > City (Providence) x2 > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org > -- Thrasher Kitch Huh, did I miss someting? From dimmak42 at gmail.com Tue Mar 3 09:03:19 2009 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com (James Ruggiero) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:03:19 -0500 Subject: [CamRI] Attention someone is spamming AOL Message-ID: Cam RI members please check your out going emails and make sure these emails; redacted at camarillaprovidence.org, redacted at cammail.white-wolf.com Cc: redacted at aol.com, redacted at gmail.com, redacted at aim.com Are not showing up. The DC account emailing the game announcement has been flagged as SPAM by the user. This threatens to shut down our email services, please make sure your email accounts are not hijacked. I suspect it is only DC at Camarillaprovidence.org is the culprit but please verify that your camri accounts are not sending out undue email. Thank you, Jim Ruggiero aDC Web Presence US2002023492 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dimmak42 at gmail.com Tue Mar 3 09:08:27 2009 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com (James Ruggiero) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:08:27 -0500 Subject: [CamRI] Prestige Requests In-Reply-To: References: <966001030-1236092137-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-178548634-@bxe1091.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: I think he was referring to the fact that he has been an officer in the RI Domain for the last 5 years and can now actually claim it. Really, Kitch, you must read between the lines! Jim On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Mike ''Thrasher'' Kitchenman < tkitch at gmail.com> wrote: > *Pets Jon on the head* > > There, there, it'll be ok.... > > -Kitch > US2007039619 > ADC Legacy > ARC Admin > NERE Second > > (I've never claimed that in the Cam, either...) > > On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 9:56 AM, wrote: > > Good Morning, > > > > I know these should only be sent to the DC, but I couldn't resist. > > I am pleased to request the following for the first time in almost FIVE > YEARS: > > > > Organization > > Attending A Domain Meeting- 5g > > > > Also, Seth donated drinks as well as site hosting. 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URL: From tkitch at gmail.com Tue Mar 3 09:20:37 2009 From: tkitch at gmail.com (Mike ''Thrasher'' Kitchenman) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:20:37 -0500 Subject: [CamRI] Fwd: [Forsaken-ooc] IC impacts of the UK affiliate situation In-Reply-To: <49ad5c85.1736640a.5aa2.1ce4@mx.google.com> References: <49ad5c85.1736640a.5aa2.1ce4@mx.google.com> Message-ID: FYI on UK Events: -Kitch US2007039619 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Robin Cannon - AMST Chief of Staff Date: Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:36 AM Subject: [Forsaken-ooc] IC impacts of the UK affiliate situation To: Global Requiem OOC Discussion List , awakening-ooc at cammail.white-wolf.com, changeling-lost-ooc at cammail.white-wolf.com, forsaken-ooc at cammail.white-wolf.com Dear all I wanted to address questions regarding how players should react in regards to ongoing IC interaction with UK characters and events over the next month. 1.???? UK plot and settings is currently under the auspices of the MST?s office. Investigations into UK related settings, development of background ties and events for new characters, etc, should be directed to the relevant venue AMST. Obviously please take into account that this is a very busy period and any interaction in such aspects of the UK should be kept to an absolute minimum. 2.???? All in-character continuity is entirely unaffected ? past events, interaction with UK plot and characters, all of this is completely legitimate. 3.???? Camarilla UK members have until March 31 to transfer existing characters into GIR. In-character interaction with those characters may continue, and is entirely legitimate, until that date. 4.???? From April 1 any interaction with characters played by UK members who have transferred into GIR is obviously completely fine. 5.???? From April 1 characters played by UK members who have chosen not to transfer to GIR will become NPCs under the control of GIR storytelling staff. My best advice is that you discuss with any UK member who is conducting a roleplay scene with your character whether they are going to transfer to GIR. If they are not then it may be best to make efforts to wrap up any roleplay prior to April 1, but roleplay may continue with any character that becomes an NPC if entirely necessary. 6.???? GIR should take full control of UK characters and games within the Camarilla chronicle as of April 1. This will include live action games and IRC games, and all UK members who choose to transfer to GIR can interact in any Camarilla sanctioned game, and their characters will fall under the GIR ST and approval chain. These characters will exist entirely as before, and their players will be fully able to enjoy the global interaction and continuity of the Camarilla chronicle. If you have any questions, please don?t hesitate to contact me. Many thanks ----- Robin Cannon UK02102071 (for now!) AMST Chief of Staff www.fogofeternity.com www.myfriendsdontknow.com No matter how upset you get, no matter how irrational the initial reaction to getting your nose a little out of joint is, you are not allowed to lose sight of the fact that there is no possible way anything that happens in pretendy fun time games can actually be important. It is not, nor will it ever be, a big deal. _______________________________________________ Forsaken-ooc mailing list Forsaken-ooc at cammail.white-wolf.com http://cammail.white-wolf.com/mailman/listinfo/forsaken-ooc -- Thrasher Kitch Huh, did I miss someting? From tkitch at gmail.com Tue Mar 3 09:22:49 2009 From: tkitch at gmail.com (Mike ''Thrasher'' Kitchenman) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:22:49 -0500 Subject: [CamRI] Prestige Requests In-Reply-To: References: <966001030-1236092137-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-178548634-@bxe1091.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: I know what he was going for ;) I was just pickin on him some, Jim! -Kitch Us2007039619 On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 12:08 PM, James Ruggiero wrote: > I think he was referring to the fact that he has been an officer in the RI > Domain for the last 5 years and can now actually claim it. > Really, Kitch, you must read between the lines! > > Jim > > > On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Mike ''Thrasher'' Kitchenman > wrote: >> >> *Pets Jon on the head* >> >> There, there, it'll be ok.... >> >> -Kitch >> US2007039619 >> ADC Legacy >> ARC Admin >> NERE Second >> >> (I've never claimed that in the Cam, either...) >> >> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 9:56 AM, ? wrote: >> > Good Morning, >> > >> > I know these should only be sent to the DC, but I couldn't resist. >> > I am pleased to request the following for the first time in almost FIVE >> > YEARS: >> > >> > Organization >> > Attending A Domain Meeting- 5g >> > >> > Also, Seth donated drinks as well as site hosting. He should remember >> > that when he submits his prestige. >> > >> > HAGD, >> > Jon >> > Have A Great Day, >> > >> > Jonathan McDowell, Sr. >> > US2002045163 >> > IC: Julius Carver >> > Daeva x1 >> > Carthian x1 >> > City (Providence) x2 >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > CamRI mailing list >> > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org >> > >> > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Thrasher Kitch >> Huh, did I miss someting? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CamRI mailing list >> CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org >> >> http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org > > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org > > -- Thrasher Kitch Huh, did I miss someting? From 8ernallysecure at gmail.com Tue Mar 3 09:35:28 2009 From: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com (8ernallysecure at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 17:35:28 +0000 Subject: [CamRI] Prestige Requests Message-ID: <489412305-1236101701-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1189506089-@bxe1091.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> @Jim potayto/potahto. He can call me flower if he wants to, I don't mind. I admit it is a joy to be able to participate fully on a local level again. In case people hadn't noticed...this is not good news for the rest of you ;) I can stir pots now. Shall we look at this first month? Requiem: Impregnated a fellow PC, told 2 Vic fools to go step, dropped my hose for a big strapping man to suck on...good times Awakening: English goes BAD *glee!* incites THREE PCs to murder coma patients in the med bay. How frickin' sweet is that?! One of them plucked a guy's eye and shoved a knife through the empty socket. Goleme FTW! Have A good'un, Jon Have A Great Day, Jonathan McDowell, Sr. US2002045163 From us2003031415 at hotmail.com Tue Mar 3 11:47:36 2009 From: us2003031415 at hotmail.com (John Tyler) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:47:36 -0500 Subject: [CamRI] Prestige Requests In-Reply-To: <489412305-1236101701-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1189506089-@bxe1091.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <489412305-1236101701-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1189506089-@bxe1091.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: Whatever happened to the English who reacted in self realizing horror to the words "Dude, my mom's boyfriend doesn't even hit me that hard."? (sigh) oh how they grow up . . . ooc: John Tyler US2003031415 RI002D > To: camri at camarillaprovidence.org > From: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com > Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 17:35:28 +0000 > Subject: Re: [CamRI] Prestige Requests > > @Jim potayto/potahto. He can call me flower if he wants to, I don't mind. > > I admit it is a joy to be able to participate fully on a local level again. In case people hadn't noticed...this is not good news for the rest of you ;) I can stir pots now. Shall we look at this first month? > Requiem: > Impregnated a fellow PC, told 2 Vic fools to go step, dropped my hose for a big strapping man to suck on...good times > > Awakening: > English goes BAD *glee!* incites THREE PCs to murder coma patients in the med bay. How frickin' sweet is that?! One of them plucked a guy's eye and shoved a knife through the empty socket. Goleme FTW! > > Have A good'un, > > Jon > Have A Great Day, > > Jonathan McDowell, Sr. > US2002045163 > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Contacts: Organize your contact list. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/marcusatmicrosoft.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!503D1D86EBB2B53C!2285.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_UGC_Contacts_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dimmak42 at gmail.com Tue Mar 3 11:49:08 2009 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com (James Ruggiero) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:49:08 -0500 Subject: [CamRI] Prestige Requests In-Reply-To: <489412305-1236101701-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1189506089-@bxe1091.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <489412305-1236101701-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1189506089-@bxe1091.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: GALMI... pronounced Goal Me. Do you know how hard it is to find Jewish words with Phonetics!!!! Ettore thats Et Tore Ree.... Tschitquihilleu... just sneeze and say you at the end... ok maybe I use difficult names.. sue me. Jim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From dimmak42 at gmail.com Tue Mar 3 11:51:29 2009 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com (James Ruggiero) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:51:29 -0500 Subject: [CamRI] Prestige Requests In-Reply-To: References: <489412305-1236101701-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1189506089-@bxe1091.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: Um English spent a month travelling with Galmi in an undead space shuttle if you remember. Do you think anyone comes out of the mentally unscathed??? Jim On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 2:47 PM, John Tyler wrote: > Whatever happened to the English who reacted in self realizing horror to > the words "Dude, my mom's boyfriend doesn't even hit me that hard."? > (sigh) oh how they grow up . . . > > ooc: > John Tyler > US2003031415 > RI002D > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dimmak42 at gmail.com Tue Mar 3 11:54:36 2009 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com (James Ruggiero) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:54:36 -0500 Subject: [CamRI] Prestige Requests In-Reply-To: <8f8432d0903031150p6e6bf135k2fd84a0b0ce47fd3@mail.gmail.com> References: <489412305-1236101701-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1189506089-@bxe1091.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <8f8432d0903031150p6e6bf135k2fd84a0b0ce47fd3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Alexander J Skrabut wrote: > On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 2:49 PM, James Ruggiero wrote: > >> GALMI > > > SUPERJEW! > Galmi prepares to go out at night: 1. Utility belt. Check. 2. Grappling hook. Check. 3. Suped up car. Check. 4. Dark trench coat with reinforced lining and the ability to change color. Check. 5. Stylish wrap around sunglasses at night. Check. 6. Acidic locks. Check. 7. 100% Jewish attitude. Check. Hat's off to the Skrabut. 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I think y'all might want to take a peek at the parent figures here before you go blaming the kid. HAGD, Jon Have A Great Day, Jonathan McDowell, Sr. US2002045163 From dimmak42 at gmail.com Tue Mar 3 12:14:07 2009 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com (James Ruggiero) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:14:07 -0500 Subject: [CamRI] Bad English In-Reply-To: <629647958-1236110726-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-302243012-@bxe1091.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <629647958-1236110726-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-302243012-@bxe1091.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: And I would like to point out the goody two shoes, Nora, supported the euthanasia of those poor suffering people. I mean they only kept those mages in stasis for two or three ST terms.... The question is who made the cops kill each other while having milk and cookies in the kitchen? Jim US2002023492 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From silvergryphon22 at hotmail.com Tue Mar 3 12:36:49 2009 From: silvergryphon22 at hotmail.com (Nadia Ryper) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:36:49 -0500 Subject: [CamRI] Prestige Requests In-Reply-To: References: <489412305-1236101701-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1189506089-@bxe1091.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <8f8432d0903031150p6e6bf135k2fd84a0b0ce47fd3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 1. Utility belt. Check. 2. Grappling hook. Check. 3. Suped up car. Check. 4. Dark trench coat with reinforced lining and the ability to change color. Check. 5. Stylish wrap around sunglasses at night. Check. 6. Acidic locks. Check. 7. 100% Jewish attitude. Check. Um, not "Acidic", Hasidic! Dude, there is no excuse for misspelling this stuff. I mean, your wife is Jewish... Also that car is not just any car...it's the Ubar Buick of Doooo0mz! Diana Ruggiero US2003061734 RI-001-D "Comfort the Disturbed and Disturb the Comfortable" Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:54:36 -0500 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com To: CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org Subject: Re: [CamRI] Prestige Requests On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Alexander J Skrabut wrote: On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 2:49 PM, James Ruggiero wrote: GALMI SUPERJEW! Galmi prepares to go out at night: 1. Utility belt. Check. 2. Grappling hook. Check. 3. Suped up car. Check. 4. Dark trench coat with reinforced lining and the ability to change color. Check. 5. Stylish wrap around sunglasses at night. Check. 6. Acidic locks. Check. 7. 100% Jewish attitude. Check. Hat's off to the Skrabut. Jim US2002023492 _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail?. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From camarilla at childofchaos.com Tue Mar 3 12:32:46 2009 From: camarilla at childofchaos.com (Shuniqua Rodriguez) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:32:46 -0500 Subject: [CamRI] Prestige Requests In-Reply-To: References: <489412305-1236101701-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1189506089-@bxe1091.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <8f8432d0903031150p6e6bf135k2fd84a0b0ce47fd3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49AD93EE.4090202@childofchaos.com> But will it be enough to face off against the evil super bacon cheeseburger of doom? -Shu Nadia Ryper wrote: > 1. Utility belt. Check. > 2. Grappling hook. Check. > 3. Suped up car. Check. > 4. Dark trench coat with reinforced lining and the ability to change color. Check. > > 5. Stylish wrap around sunglasses at night. Check. > 6. Acidic locks. Check. > 7. 100% Jewish attitude. Check. > > Um, not "Acidic", Hasidic! > > Dude, there is no excuse for misspelling this stuff. I mean, your wife is Jewish... > > Also that car is not just any car...it's the Ubar Buick of Doooo0mz! > > Diana Ruggiero > US2003061734 > RI-001-D > "Comfort the Disturbed and Disturb the Comfortable" > > > > Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:54:36 -0500 > From: dimmak42 at gmail.com > To: CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > Subject: Re: [CamRI] Prestige Requests > > On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Alexander J Skrabut wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 2:49 PM, James Ruggiero wrote: > > > GALMI > SUPERJEW! > > Galmi prepares to go out at night: > > 1. Utility belt. Check. > 2. Grappling hook. Check. > 3. Suped up car. Check. > 4. Dark trench coat with reinforced lining and the ability to change color. Check. > > 5. Stylish wrap around sunglasses at night. Check. > 6. Acidic locks. Check. > 7. 100% Jewish attitude. Check. > > Hat's off to the Skrabut. > > Jim > US2002023492 > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail?. > http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org > -- Shuniqua Rodriguez US2002086541 AIM: GMCAddicted Y!: maevedracorum GTalk: shuniqua.rodriguez at gmail.com ICQ: 17781119 From 8ernallysecure at gmail.com Tue Mar 3 12:43:49 2009 From: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com (8ernallysecure at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 20:43:49 +0000 Subject: [CamRI] Galmi Message-ID: <1748666948-1236112994-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2097762871-@bxe1091.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> LMFAO@ "Acidic Dreadlocks" I totally missed that the first time. Thank You, Diana. I'm seeing Galmi swinging his hair like a bad anime fighter, striking his foes with dreads tipped with scorpion tails. Hai! Hai! Hai! -Jon Have A Great Day, Jonathan McDowell, Sr. US2002045163 From tkitch at gmail.com Tue Mar 3 12:45:37 2009 From: tkitch at gmail.com (Mike ''Thrasher'' Kitchenman) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:45:37 -0500 Subject: [CamRI] Prestige Requests In-Reply-To: References: <489412305-1236101701-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1189506089-@bxe1091.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <8f8432d0903031150p6e6bf135k2fd84a0b0ce47fd3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Well, the Acidic dreads could be one of his super powers! -Kitch US2007039619 On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Nadia Ryper wrote: > 1. Utility belt. Check. > 2. Grappling hook. Check. > 3. Suped up car. Check. > 4. Dark trench coat with reinforced lining and the ability to change color. > Check. > 5. Stylish wrap around sunglasses at night. Check. > 6. Acidic locks. Check. > 7. 100% Jewish attitude. Check. > > Um, not "Acidic", Hasidic! > > Dude, there is no excuse for misspelling this stuff.? I mean, your wife is > Jewish... > > Also that car is not just any car...it's the Ubar Buick of Doooo0mz! > > Diana Ruggiero > US2003061734 > RI-001-D > "Comfort the Disturbed and Disturb the Comfortable" > > > > ________________________________ > Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:54:36 -0500 > From: dimmak42 at gmail.com > To: CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > Subject: Re: [CamRI] Prestige Requests > > On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Alexander J Skrabut > wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 2:49 PM, James Ruggiero wrote: > > GALMI > > SUPERJEW! > > Galmi prepares to go out at night: > > 1. Utility belt. Check. > 2. Grappling hook. Check. > 3. Suped up car. Check. > 4. Dark trench coat with reinforced lining and the ability to change color. > Check. > 5. Stylish wrap around sunglasses at night. Check. > 6. Acidic locks. Check. > 7. 100% Jewish attitude. Check. > > Hat's off to the Skrabut. > > Jim > US2002023492 > > ________________________________ > Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail?. > See how. > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org > > -- Thrasher Kitch Huh, did I miss someting? From dimmak42 at gmail.com Tue Mar 3 12:49:29 2009 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com (James Ruggiero) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:49:29 -0500 Subject: [CamRI] Prestige Requests In-Reply-To: References: <489412305-1236101701-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1189506089-@bxe1091.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <8f8432d0903031150p6e6bf135k2fd84a0b0ce47fd3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 6. Acidic Hasidic Locks. Dang spell checker does not realize he is a master of Death and Matter. Hair = dead matter. I am pretty sure he can make his: *Corrosive Strike of Dread Lock Doom!!!* Ok, i have an urge to make a comic cover of these guys now. If I am not on WoW I am probably drawing. Later, Jim US2002023492 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dst at camarillaprovidence.org Tue Mar 3 12:50:59 2009 From: dst at camarillaprovidence.org (dst at camarillaprovidence.org) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 20:50:59 +0000 Subject: [CamRI] Galmi Message-ID: <1933793324-1236113425-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-466766398-@bxe1091.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> @evil super bacon cheeseburger of doom It's not evil, just misunderstood! How can something so beautiful...be bad? It doesn't mean to clog arteries and kill people, honest! Just because you steal a cow's milk, then slit its throat, then find Ms. Piggy and off her, just to make a sandwich doesn't make it evil. -Jon I should really be working Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From mrcorvin at gmail.com Tue Mar 3 13:04:14 2009 From: mrcorvin at gmail.com (mrcorvin) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:04:14 -0500 Subject: [CamRI] Prestige Requests In-Reply-To: References: <489412305-1236101701-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1189506089-@bxe1091.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <8f8432d0903031150p6e6bf135k2fd84a0b0ce47fd3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2fcf1c2b0903031304p591992c7v350b8b904904db58@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 3:49 PM, James Ruggiero wrote: > 6. Acidic Hasidic Locks. > > Dang spell checker does not realize he is a master of Death and Matter. Hair > = dead matter. I am pretty sure he can make his: > > Corrosive Strike of Dread Lock Doom!!! > > Ok, i have an urge to make a comic cover of these guys now. If I am not on > WoW I am probably drawing. I was about to say, that sounds like headgear you can get in WoW. -- OOC: Bill Malvasi US2002021749 From mrcorvin at gmail.com Tue Mar 3 13:58:32 2009 From: mrcorvin at gmail.com (mrcorvin) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:58:32 -0500 Subject: [CamRI] Galmi In-Reply-To: <1933793324-1236113425-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-466766398-@bxe1091.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <1933793324-1236113425-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-466766398-@bxe1091.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <2fcf1c2b0903031358j7bbf0aes985f41d023f9d44f@mail.gmail.com> Bacon Cheeseburger, How I love thee....Let me count the ways... On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 3:50 PM, wrote: > @evil super bacon cheeseburger of doom > > It's not evil, just misunderstood! How can something so beautiful...be bad? > > It doesn't mean to clog arteries and kill people, honest! Just because you steal a cow's milk, then slit its throat, then find Ms. Piggy and off her, just to make a sandwich doesn't make it evil. > > -Jon > I should really be working > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org > -- OOC: Bill Malvasi US2002021749 From dimmak42 at gmail.com Tue Mar 3 14:53:56 2009 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com (James Ruggiero) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 17:53:56 -0500 Subject: [CamRI] Galmi In-Reply-To: <2fcf1c2b0903031358j7bbf0aes985f41d023f9d44f@mail.gmail.com> References: <1933793324-1236113425-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-466766398-@bxe1091.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <2fcf1c2b0903031358j7bbf0aes985f41d023f9d44f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Chomp 1, chomp 2, chomp 3 gulp. 3, it takes 3 chomps to get to the center of a bacon cheeseburger. How many licks does it take to get to the center? the world may never know. Jim On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 4:58 PM, mrcorvin wrote: > Bacon Cheeseburger, How I love thee....Let me count the ways... > > On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 3:50 PM, wrote: > > @evil super bacon cheeseburger of doom > > > > It's not evil, just misunderstood! How can something so beautiful...be > bad? > > > > It doesn't mean to clog arteries and kill people, honest! Just because > you steal a cow's milk, then slit its throat, then find Ms. Piggy and off > her, just to make a sandwich doesn't make it evil. > > > > -Jon > > I should really be working > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > > _______________________________________________ > > CamRI mailing list > > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > > > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org > > > > > > -- > OOC: > Bill Malvasi > US2002021749 > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From silvergryphon22 at hotmail.com Wed Mar 4 16:47:07 2009 From: silvergryphon22 at hotmail.com (Nadia Ryper) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 19:47:07 -0500 Subject: [CamRI] Watchmen Message-ID: Who wants to go and watch The Watchmen? You know you want to! Should we go on Friday around here, or try and coordinate it with CT people if they go on Friday? Diana Ruggiero US2003061734 RI-001-D "Comfort the Disturbed and Disturb the Comfortable" _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Hotmail??more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_howitworks_022009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tkitch at gmail.com Wed Mar 4 22:02:17 2009 From: tkitch at gmail.com (Mike ''Thrasher'' Kitchenman) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 01:02:17 -0500 Subject: [CamRI] Watchmen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: friday (And even saturday) shows are sold out at most places already.... -Kitch On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Nadia Ryper wrote: > Who wants to go and watch The Watchmen? > > You know you want to! > > Should we go on Friday around here, or try and coordinate it with CT people > if they go on Friday? > > Diana Ruggiero > US2003061734 > RI-001-D > "Comfort the Disturbed and Disturb the Comfortable" > > > > ------------------------------ > Windows Live? Hotmail??more than just e-mail. See how it works. > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org > > -- Thrasher Kitch Huh, did I miss someting? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dimmak42 at gmail.com Thu Mar 5 06:38:22 2009 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com (James Ruggiero) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:38:22 -0500 Subject: [CamRI] Watchmen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We have a Peter Gerardi, I will poke him with a magical cow prod and he can make tickets magically appear! Jim On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 1:02 AM, Mike ''Thrasher'' Kitchenman < tkitch at gmail.com> wrote: > friday (And even saturday) shows are sold out at most places already.... > > > -Kitch > > > On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Nadia Ryper wrote: > >> Who wants to go and watch The Watchmen? >> >> You know you want to! >> >> Should we go on Friday around here, or try and coordinate it with CT >> people if they go on Friday? >> >> Diana Ruggiero >> US2003061734 >> RI-001-D >> "Comfort the Disturbed and Disturb the Comfortable" >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> Windows Live? Hotmail??more than just e-mail. See how it works. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CamRI mailing list >> CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org >> >> http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org >> >> > > > -- > Thrasher Kitch > Huh, did I miss someting? > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tkitch at gmail.com Thu Mar 5 06:44:21 2009 From: tkitch at gmail.com (Mike ''Thrasher'' Kitchenman) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:44:21 -0500 Subject: [CamRI] Watchmen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Find out when, and i may well come down for a visit ;) Kitch On 3/5/09, James Ruggiero wrote: > We have a Peter Gerardi, I will poke him with a magical cow prod and he can > make tickets magically appear! > > > Jim > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 1:02 AM, Mike ''Thrasher'' Kitchenman < > tkitch at gmail.com> wrote: > >> friday (And even saturday) shows are sold out at most places already.... >> >> >> -Kitch >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Nadia Ryper >> wrote: >> >>> Who wants to go and watch The Watchmen? >>> >>> You know you want to! >>> >>> Should we go on Friday around here, or try and coordinate it with CT >>> people if they go on Friday? >>> >>> Diana Ruggiero >>> US2003061734 >>> RI-001-D >>> "Comfort the Disturbed and Disturb the Comfortable" >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> Windows Live? Hotmail??more than just e-mail. See how it >>> works. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> CamRI mailing list >>> CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org >>> >>> http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Thrasher Kitch >> Huh, did I miss someting? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CamRI mailing list >> CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org >> >> http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org >> >> > -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com Thrasher Kitch Huh, did I miss someting? From us2003031415 at hotmail.com Thu Mar 5 11:29:52 2009 From: us2003031415 at hotmail.com (John Tyler) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 14:29:52 -0500 Subject: [CamRI] Watchmen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: OOH OHH MISTUH COTTAH MISTUH COTTA!!! . . . ahem sorry. I'd like to go please. ooc: John Tyler US2003031415 RI002D From: silvergryphon22 at hotmail.com To: camri at camarillaprovidence.org Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 19:47:07 -0500 Subject: [CamRI] Watchmen Who wants to go and watch The Watchmen? You know you want to! Should we go on Friday around here, or try and coordinate it with CT people if they go on Friday? Diana Ruggiero US2003061734 RI-001-D "Comfort the Disturbed and Disturb the Comfortable" Windows Live? Hotmail??more than just e-mail. See how it works. _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail?. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Jim On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Nadia Ryper wrote: > So anyone have an idea of what time? > > Diana Ruggiero > US2003061734 > RI-001-D > "Comfort the Disturbed and Disturb the Comfortable" > > > > ------------------------------ > Windows Live? Contacts: Organize your contact list. Check it out. > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mrcorvin at gmail.com Fri Mar 6 07:05:45 2009 From: mrcorvin at gmail.com (mrcorvin) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:05:45 -0500 Subject: [CamRI] Watchmen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2fcf1c2b0903060705u505cb9eai509df596dfc1c3f6@mail.gmail.com> Maybe no one watches the watchmen... ....or heard of them *ducks and runs* On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:01 AM, James Ruggiero wrote: > Late, I am suprised however about the lack luster response for a superhero > movie... have all the comic fans died? -- OOC: Bill Malvasi US2002021749 From 8ernallysecure at gmail.com Fri Mar 6 08:43:14 2009 From: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com (8ernallysecure at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 16:43:14 +0000 Subject: [CamRI] Watchmen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <17371010-1236357758-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-375252137-@bxe1091.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> My immediate interest waned after realizing how packed it will be. Jonathan Have A Great Day, Jonathan McDowell, Sr. US2002045163 -----Original Message----- From: James Ruggiero Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:01:39 To: Subject: Re: [CamRI] Watchmen _______________________________________________ CamRI mailing list CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org From chloethegiamassi at hotmail.com Fri Mar 6 09:28:42 2009 From: chloethegiamassi at hotmail.com (Jenn Gerardi) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 12:28:42 -0500 Subject: [CamRI] Watchmen In-Reply-To: <17371010-1236357758-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-375252137-@bxe1091.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <17371010-1236357758-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-375252137-@bxe1091.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: myself and the husband both can not go tonight because he made plans to watch a friends band play. If people want to debate the movie with Peter, you will have to wait until Saturday night or so when he goes to see it. Of course, we are not working today so call us if you want to see a matinee. :) That being said, tickets in RI are NOT sold out. (Kitch almost all of boston is) soooo.... if you want to brave the crowds, here are the available times for tonight: Providence Place Cinemas 16 & IMAX- 12:30pm, 1:00pm, 1:30pm, 3:45pm, 4:15pm, 4:45pm, 7:00pm, 7:30pm, 8:00pm, 10:20pm, 10:50pm, 11:20pm Please note there is a charge for parking here. Showcase Cinemas Seekonk 1-10- 12:30pm, 1:00pm, 1:30pm, 3:45pm, 4:15pm, 4:45pm, 7:00pm, 7:30pm, 8:00pm, 10:20pm Showcase Cinemas Warwick Mall- Noon, 12:30pm, 1:00pm, 3:15pm, 3:45pm, 4:15pm, 6:30pm, 7:00pm, 7:30pm, 9:50pm, 10:20pm, 10:50pm Please note this is a mall theatre and will be PACKED with teenagers even if the movie itself isn't packed. Showcase Cinemas Warwick - Noon, 12:30pm, 1:00pm, 3:15pm, 3:50pm, 4:25pm, 6:30pm, 7:20pm, 7:50pm, 9:50pm, 10:50pm, 11:15pm Showcase Cinemas North Attleboro - Noon, 12:30pm, 1:00pm, 3:15pm, 3:45pm, 4:15pm, 6:30pm, 7:00pm, 7:30pm, 9:50pm, 10:20pm OOC: Jenn Gerardi US2005116891 IC: Madam Chloe Kirshenbaum, Consigliere to the Giamassi Family Valued among the Invictus "Everybody's buisness is nobody's buisness" > To: camri at camarillaprovidence.org > From: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com > Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 16:43:14 +0000 > Subject: Re: [CamRI] Watchmen > > My immediate interest waned after realizing how packed it will be. > > Jonathan > Have A Great Day, > > Jonathan McDowell, Sr. > US2002045163 > > -----Original Message----- > From: James Ruggiero > > Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:01:39 > To: > Subject: Re: [CamRI] Watchmen > > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! 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URL: From dimmak42 at gmail.com Fri Mar 6 11:42:38 2009 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com (James Ruggiero) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 14:42:38 -0500 Subject: [CamRI] Fwd: Re: Watchmen In-Reply-To: References: <49b171e5.8905be0a.3efb.5467SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: I am flexible, but I know Diana is picking up her friend Yvonne in Central Falls @ 7:30. I oringally stated late under the assumption we had retail wokers... those people stir frying shirts and pants. Jim On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Melissa McDowell wrote: > So here is my input i would prefer to do an earlier show either warwick > mall or warwick showcase because my parents are watching my kids and if > ellie won't go to sleep there i'm going to have to pick her up. that is > just my preferrence though. > melissa > > ---------- > Sent from my Verizon Wireless mobile phone > > ------Original Message------ > From: James Ruggiero > To: > Date: Fri, Mar 6, 1:37 PM -0500 > Subject: Re: [CamRI] Watchmen > > Whose band? Did Dave get something together again? > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From silvergryphon22 at hotmail.com Fri Mar 6 15:31:48 2009 From: silvergryphon22 at hotmail.com (Nadia Ryper) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 18:31:48 -0500 Subject: [CamRI] Watchmen Message-ID: We will be at the 9:50pm show at Warwick Showcase cinema. If you want Jim to get your ticket, contact him before 8:30pm If you want to get your own, you can do it here... https://www.movietickets.com/purchase.asp?perf_id=574598829 Diana Ruggiero US2003061734 RI-001-D "Comfort the Disturbed and Disturb the Comfortable" _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Life without walls. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dc at camarillaprovidence.org Sat Mar 7 19:48:25 2009 From: dc at camarillaprovidence.org (Melissa McDowell) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 22:48:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: [CamRI] RI February Domain Report Message-ID: <3051.70.20.0.58.1236484105.squirrel@www.camarillaprovidence.org> February 2009 RI Domain Report The House on 276 Angell St., RI-002-D, Providence, Rhode Island Region: NE Number of members: 13 Coordinator Staff: Domain Coordinator: Melissa McDowell, US2004082008 Date position attained: 08/2008 Ordeals passed: Membership, Coordinators ? ? ? ? ADC- Socials: Diana Ruggiero, US2003061734 Date Position attained: 08/2007 Ordeals passed: Membership, Coordinators, Storytellers ADC Web ADC- Websites and Technology: James Ruggiero, US2002023492 Date position attained: 03/2006 Ordeals passed: Membership, Coordinators, Storytellers ADC Reports Proofreader? John Tyler, US2003031415 Date position attained: 11/2008 Ordeals passed: Membership, Coordinators, Storytellers DST: Jonathan McDowell, US2002045163 ? ? ? ?Date position attained: 02/2007 ? ? ? ?Ordeals passed: Membership, Coordinators, Storytellers VST- Requiem: James Ruggiero, US2002023492 Date Office Gained: 04/2008 Ordeals Passed: Membership, Coordinators, Storytellers VST-Mage: Seth Dwyer-Frasier, US2002023065 Date Office Gained: 12/2008 Ordeals Passed: Membership, Coordinators, Storytellers VST-Changeling: None ============================== Domain Address: 24 Anthony Drive Cumberland, RI 02864 Domain Contact E-Mail Address: dc at camarillaprovidence.org or ricamgirl at yahoo.com Domain Website: www.camarillaprovidence.org/Cam08/FullyWrapped.php Created and maintained by: James Ruggiero, US2002023492 Domain Newsletter: None Edited by: Last published on: Domain Upcoming Schedule of Events: 3/21/2009-Requiem: TBA 3/22/2009-Mage: TBA Last Domain meeting: 2/21/2009 Next Domain meeting: 3/21/2009 ============================== Current Projects: GAME of the MONTH is scheduled for April. We are looking for a site to have both Requiem and Mage. Please contact the coordinator if you have any suggestions. Recruitment- This is still an ongoing issue so if anyone has any suggestions, please let me know. Box Top for Education ? Members who collect these and get them to me will be awarded 1 general prestige for each one with a maximum of 70. Box tops are the cutout item on top of certain food products; they are a dark pink with a pencil on it. Usually cereals, Campbell?s soup, Ziploc bags, etc. have the icon on it. Many schools collect these and are receive money and products for collecting so many of them. Collecting soda cans and bottles for prestige. Please do not crush them it makes the machine have a hard time reading the label. Currently we are able to turn in Coke and Pepsi products, as well as Beer. Please no lemonade, iced tea, Red Bull or any energy drinks. If it has a MA redemption, then we can take it. Problems: - NONE Questions: - NONE Suggestions: - ? NONE Comments: - Congrats to Herbie for becoming the new DST. Disciplinary actions: - ? NONE ============================== Domain Finances Beginning Balance: ? ? ?$120.59 Income: ? ? ?$0.00 Expenses: $0.00 Ending Balance: ? ? ?$120.59 ============================== New Members: ? ? ? ?NONE Members transferred: ? ? ? ?NONE Members at MC 9 or Higher: Ruggiero, James; US2002023492 Members over 100 Prestige for the month: ? ? ? ?NONE Members nominated for Regional Prestige: NONE Members nominated for National Prestige: NONE Members who gained an MC level: NONE ? ? ? ? ============================================================================================== Domain Tracked Membership List NOTE: Documentation for completed Tests can be forwarded upon request. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Member Name: Brosnan, Tim Email: silentben37 at hotmail.com Membership Number: US2009023655 Expires: February, 2010 Member Class: 9 Camarilla positions currently held: NONE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ordeal (Membership): yes Ordeal (Coordinator): yes Ordeal (Storyteller): yes Ordeal (WoD): Ordeal (Requiem): Ordeal (Awakening): N/A Ordeal (Forsaken): N/A Ordeal (Mortals): N/A Total Prestige Earned This Month: 0g, 0r, 0n Administration (80 max): 0 City Development (20 max): 0 Communications and Web Design (50 max): 0 Community Service (70 max): {2g} 2/22/09 Provided drinks for an event: 2g Publications (50 max): 0 Event Service: 0 Camarilla-Sponsored Conventions (100 max/event): 0 Camarilla-Attended Conventions (75 max/event): 0 Camarilla Special Events (50 max/event): 0 Storytelling Support (20 max): 0 Organizational Service (40 max): 0 Miscellaneous 0 Recruiting New Member (50 max): 0 Early Renewal: 0 Ordeals: Exceptional Service (50 max): 0 Last Month's Total: 3434g, 441r, 10n, 3885 GT This Month's Total: 3434g, 441r, 10n, 3885 GT ------------------------------------------------------------------- Member Name: Dwyer-Frazier, Seth Email: seangreyson at hotmail.com Membership Number: US2002023065 Expires: April 09, 2010 Member Class: 7 Camarilla positions currently held: VST Mage ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ordeal (Membership): yes Ordeal (Coordinator): yes Ordeal (Storyteller): yes Ordeal (WoD): Ordeal (Requiem): Ordeal (Awakening): N/A Ordeal (Forsaken): N/A Ordeal (Mortals): N/A Total Prestige Earned This Month: 55g, 0r, 0n Administration (80 max): {40g} Venue Level Principle Officer 40g City Development (20 max): 0 Communications and Web Design (50 max): 0 Community Service (70 max): {5g} 2/22/09 Provided drinks for an event: 5g Publications (50 max): 0 Event Service: 0 Camarilla-Sponsored Conventions (100 max/event): 0 Camarilla-Attended Conventions (75 max/event): 0 Camarilla Special Events (50 max/event): 0 Storytelling Support (20 max): 0 Organizational Service (40 max): {10g} 2/22/09 Provide Game site (Mage): 5g 2/22/09 Set up and/or clean up a game site (Mage): 5g Miscellaneous 0 Recruiting New Member (50 max): 0 Early Renewal: 0 Ordeals: Exceptional Service (50 max): 0 Last Month's Total: 2296g, 0r, 10n, 2306 GT This Month's Total: 2351g, 0r, 10n, 2361 GT -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name: Gerardi, Jenn Email: chloethegiamassi at hotmail.com Membership #: US2005116891 Expires: 04/18/09 Member Class: 5 Camarilla positions currently held: None ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ordeal (Membership): yes Ordeal (Coordinator): yes Ordeal (Storyteller): yes Ordeal (WoD): Ordeal (Requiem): Ordeal (Awakening): N/A Ordeal (Forsaken): N/A Ordeal (Mortals): N/A Total Prestige Earned This Month: 0g, 0r, 0n Administration (80 max): 0 City Development (20 max): 0 Communications and Web Design (50 max): 0 Community Service (70 max): 0 Publications (50 max): 0 Event Service: 0 Camarilla-Sponsored Conventions (100 max/event): 0 Camarilla-Attended Conventions (75 max/event): 0 Camarilla Special Events (50 max/event): 0 Storytelling Support (20 max): 0 Organizational Service (40 max): 0 Miscellaneous 0 Recruiting New Member (50 max): 0 Early Renewal: 0 Ordeals: Exceptional Service (50 max): 0 Last Month's Total: 1022g, 5r, 15n, 1042GT This Month's Total: 1022g, 5r, 15n, 1042GT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name: Gerardi, Peter Email: daphatitalian at yahoo.com Membership #: US2005127062 Expires: April 20, 2009 Member Class: 4 Camarilla positions currently held: None ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ordeal (Membership): Ordeal (Coordinator): Ordeal (Storyteller): Ordeal (WoD): Ordeal (Requiem): Ordeal (Awakening): N/A Ordeal (Forsaken): N/A Ordeal (Mortals): N/A Total Prestige Earned This Month: 0g, 0r, 0n Administration (80 max): 0 City Development (20 max): 0 Communications and Web Design (50 max): 0 Community Service (70 max): 0 Publications (50 max): 0 Event Service: 0 Camarilla-Sponsored Conventions (100 max/event): 0 Camarilla-Attended Conventions (75 max/event): 0 Camarilla Special Events (50 max/event): 0 Storytelling Support (20 max): 0 Organizational Service (40 max): 0 Miscellaneous 0 Recruiting New Member (50 max): 0 Early Renewal: 0 Ordeals: 0 Exceptional Service (50 max): 0 Last Month's Total: 845g, 0r, 12n, 845 GT This Month's Total: 845g, 0r, 12n, 845 GT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name: Hicks, Herbie Email: Alucard_333 at yahoo.com Membership #: US2002106772 Expires: May 18, 2009 Member Class: 5 Camarilla positions currently held: None ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ordeal (Membership): Ordeal (Coordinator): Ordeal (Storyteller): Ordeal (WoD): Ordeal (Requiem): Ordeal (Awakening): N/A Ordeal (Forsaken): N/A Ordeal (Mortals): N/A Total Prestige Earned This Month: 40g, 0r, 0n Administration (80 max): {40g} Domain-level Principle Officer: 40g* City Development (20 max): 0 Communications and Web Design (50 max): 0 Community Service (70 max): 0 Publications (50 max): 0 Event Service: 0 Camarilla-Sponsored Conventions (100 max/event): 0 Camarilla-Attended Conventions (75 max/event): 0 Camarilla Special Events (50 max/event): 0 Storytelling Support (20 max): 0 Organizational Service (40 max): 0 Miscellaneous 0 Recruiting New Member (50 max): 0 Early Renewal: 0 Ordeals: Exceptional Service (50 max): 0 Last Month's Total: 1037g, 42r, 25n, 1099 GT This Month's Total: 1077g, 42r, 25n, 1139 GT *Pending RC approval ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name: McDowell, Jonathan Email: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com Membership #: US2002045163 Expires: April 10, 2009 Member Class: 9 (loaned 10) Camarilla positions currently held: ARST Chief of Staff ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ordeal (Membership): yes Ordeal (Coordinator): yes Ordeal (Storyteller): yes Ordeal (WoD): Ordeal (Requiem): Ordeal (Awakening): N/A Ordeal (Forsaken): N/A Ordeal (Mortals): N/A Total Prestige Earned This Month: 15g, 30r, 0n Administration (80 max): {30r} Backdated 1/2009 ARST CoS: 30r City Development (20 max): 0 Communications and Web Design (50 max): 0 Community Service (70 max): 0 Publications (50 max): 0 Event Service: 0 Camarilla-Sponsored Conventions (100 max/event): 0 Camarilla-Attended Conventions (75 max/event): 0 Camarilla Special Events (50 max/event): 0 Storytelling Support (20 max): 0 Organizational Service (40 max): {15g} 2/22/2009 Attended an Organizational Meeting - 5g 2/22/2009 Provide Game Site Requiem ? 5g 2/22/2009 Site set up and Cleanup Requiem ? 5g Miscellaneous 0 Recruiting New Member (50 max): 0 Early Renewal: 0 Ordeals: Exceptional Service (50 max): 0 Last Month's Total: 3432, 50r, 135n, 3617 GT This Month's Total: 3447, 80r, 135n, 3662 GT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name: McDowell, Melissa Email: ricamgirl at yahoo.com Membership #: US2004082008 Expires: April 10, 2013 Member Class: 6 (loaned 7) Camarilla positions currently held: Domain Coordinator ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ordeal (Membership): yes Ordeal (Coordinator): yes Ordeal (Storyteller): Ordeal (WoD): Ordeal (Requiem): Ordeal (Awakening): N/A Ordeal (Forsaken): N/A Ordeal (Mortals): N/A Total Prestige Earned This Month: 67g, 0r, 0n Administration (80 max): {40g} Domain-level Principle Officer: 40g* City Development (20 max): 0 Communications and Web Design (50 max): 0 Community Service (70 max): {17g} Boxtops: 17g Publications (50 max): 0 Event Service: 0 Camarilla-Sponsored Conventions (100 max/event): 0 Camarilla-Attended Conventions (75 max/event): 0 Camarilla Special Events (50 max/event): 0 Storytelling Support (20 max): 0 Organizational Service (40 max): {5g} 2/21/2009 Site set up and Cleanup Requiem ? 5g Miscellaneous 0 Recruiting New Member (50 max): 0 Early Renewal: 0 Ordeals: 0 Exceptional Service (50 max): 0 Last Month's Total: 1925g, 140r, 41n, 2106 GT* This Month's Total: 1992g, 140r, 41n, 2173 GT* *pending RC approval ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name: Palo, Alan Email: alan_palo at hotmail.com Membership #: US2005023005 Expires: June 06, 2009 Member Class: 4 Camarilla positions currently held: NONE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ordeal (Membership): yes Ordeal (Coordinator): Ordeal (Storyteller): Ordeal (WoD): Ordeal (Requiem): Ordeal (Awakening): N/A Ordeal (Forsaken): N/A Ordeal (Mortals): N/A Total Prestige Earned This Month: 0, 0r, 0n Administration (80 max): 0 City Development (20 max): 0 Communications and Web Design (50 max): 0 Community Service (70 max): 0 Publications (50 max): 0 Event Service: 0 Camarilla-Sponsored Conventions (100 max/event): 0 Camarilla-Attended Conventions (75 max/event): 0 Camarilla Special Events (50 max/event): 0 Storytelling Support (20 max): 0 Organizational Service (40 max): 0 Miscellaneous 0 Recruiting New Member (50 max): 0 Early Renewal: 0 Ordeals: Exceptional Service (50 max): 0 Last Month's Total: 534g, 100r, 12n, 636 GT This Month's Total: 534g, 100r, 12n, 636 GT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Paolella, Chris Email: Chrispy at Camarillaprovidence.org Membership #: US2002045211 Expires: August 13, 2009 Member Class: 6 Camarilla positions currently held: NONE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ordeal (Membership): yes Ordeal (Coordinator): Ordeal (Storyteller): Ordeal (WoD): Ordeal (Requiem): Ordeal (Awakening): N/A Ordeal (Forsaken): N/A Ordeal (Mortals): N/A Total Prestige Earned This Month: 0g, 0r, 0n Administration (80 max): 0 City Development (20 max): 0 Communications and Web Design (50 max): 0 Community Service (70 max): 0 Publications (50 max): 0 Event Service: 0 Camarilla-Sponsored Conventions (100 max/event): 0 Camarilla-Attended Conventions (75 max/event): 0 Camarilla Special Events (50 max/event): 0 Storytelling Support (20 max): 0 Organizational Service (40 max): Last Month's Total: 1688g, 0r, 24n, 1712 GT This Month's Total: 1688g, 0r, 24n, 1712 GT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Member Name: Paolella, Elizabeth Email: ecreelman at yahoo.com Membership Number: US2003122599 Expires: June 23, 2009 Member Class: 5 Camarilla positions currently held: None ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ordeal (Membership): Ordeal (Coordinator): Ordeal (Storyteller): Ordeal (WoD): Ordeal (Requiem): Ordeal (Awakening): N/A Ordeal (Forsaken): N/A Ordeal (Mortals): N/A Total Prestige Earned This Month: 0g, 0r, 0n Administration (80 max): 0 City Development (20 max): 0 Communications and Web Design (50 max): 0 Community Service (70 max): Community Service (70 max): 0 Publications (50 max): 0 Event Service: 0 Camarilla-Sponsored Conventions (100 max/event): 0 Camarilla-Attended Conventions (75 max/event): 0 Camarilla Special Events (50 max/event): 0 Storytelling Support (20 max): 0 Organizational Service (40 max): 0 Miscellaneous 0 Recruiting New Member (50 max): 0 Early Renewal: 0 Ordeals: Exceptional Service (50 max): 0 Last Month's Total: 1021g, 15r, 0n, 1036 GT This Month's Total: 1021g, 15r, 0n, 1036 GT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name: Ruggiero, Diana Email: silvergryphon22 at hotmail.com Membership #: US2003061734 Expires: April 08, 2013 Member Class: 7 Camarilla positions currently held: ADC- Socials ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ordeal (Membership): yes Ordeal (Coordinator): yes Ordeal (Storyteller): yes Ordeal (WoD): Ordeal (Requiem): Ordeal (Awakening): N/A Ordeal (Forsaken): N/A Ordeal (Mortals): N/A Total Prestige Earned This Month: 15g, 0r, 0n Administration (80 max): 0 Venue Level Principle Officer 0g City Development (20 max): 0 Communications and Web Design (50 max): 0 Community Service (70 max): 0 Publications (50 max): 0 Event Service: 0 Camarilla-Sponsored Conventions (100 max/event): 0 Camarilla-Attended Conventions (75 max/event): 0 Camarilla Special Events (50 max/event): 0 Storytelling Support (20 max): 0 Organizational Service (40 max): {15g} 2/21/2009 Site Cleanup: 5g 2/2009: Transportation: 5g 2/2009: Lodging member: 5g Miscellaneous 0 Recruiting New Member (50 max): 0 Early Renewal: 0 Ordeals: 0 Exceptional Service (50 max): 0 Last Month's Total: 2437g, 210r, 74n, 2614GT This Month's Total: 2452g, 210r, 74n, 2629GT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Ruggiero, James Email: dimmak at cox.net Membership #:US2002023492 Expires: May 06, 2009 Member Class: 10 Camarilla positions currently held: ADC Web Presence, VST REQUIEM ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ordeal (Membership): yes Ordeal (Coordinator): yes Ordeal (Storyteller): yes Ordeal (WoD): Ordeal (Requiem): Ordeal (Awakening): N/A Ordeal (Forsaken): N/A Ordeal (Mortals): N/A Total Prestige Earned This Month: 55g, 0r, 0n Administration (80 max): {55g} Venue Level Principle Officer 40g ADC Web Presence: 15g City Development (20 max): 0 Communications and Web Design (50 max): 0 Community Service (70 max): 0 Publications (50 max): 0 Event Service: 0 Camarilla-Sponsored Conventions (100 max/event): 0 Camarilla-Attended Conventions (75 max/event): 0 Camarilla Special Events (50 max/event): 0 Storytelling Support (20 max): 0 Organizational Service (40 max): 0 Miscellaneous 0 Recruiting New Member (50 max): 0 Early Renewal: 0 Ordeals: Exceptional Service (50 max): 0 Last Month's Total: 5333g, 273r, 126n, 5732GT This Month's Total: 5388g, 273r, 126n, 5787GT --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name: Timmerman, Liz Email: faerie.song at gmail.com Membership #: US2006118936 Expires: Expired Member Class: 2 Camarilla positions currently held: NONE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ordeal (Membership): yes Ordeal (Coordinator): Ordeal (Storyteller): Ordeal (WoD): Ordeal (Requiem): Ordeal (Awakening): N/A Ordeal (Forsaken): N/A Ordeal (Mortals): N/A Total Prestige Earned This Month: 0g, 0r, 0n Administration (80 max): City Development (20 max): 0 Communications and Web Design (50 max): 0 Community Service (70 max): 0 Publications (50 max): 0 Event Service: 0 Camarilla-Sponsored Conventions (100 max/event): 0 Camarilla-Attended Conventions (75 max/event): 0 Camarilla Special Events (50 max/event): 0 Storytelling Support (20 max): 0 Organizational Service (40 max): {5g} 2/22/2009 Attended an Organizational Meeting - 5g Miscellaneous 0 Recruiting New Member (50 max): 0 Early Renewal: 0 Ordeals: Exceptional Service (50 max): Last Month's Total: 213g, 0r, 5n, 218 GT This Month's Total: 218g, 0r, 5n, 223 GT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Tyler, John Email: US2003031415 at hotmail.com Membership #: US2003031415 Expires: 8/31/2009 Member Class: 6 Camarilla positions currently held: ARST Awakening & ADC Reports Proofreader ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ordeal (Membership): yes Ordeal (Coordinator): yes Ordeal (Storyteller): yes Ordeal (WoD): Ordeal (Requiem): Ordeal (Awakening): N/A Ordeal (Forsaken): N/A Ordeal (Mortals): N/A Total Prestige Earned This Month: 0g, 20r,0n Administration (80 max): {20r} Backdated 1/2009: ARST Awakening 20r City Development (20 max): 0 Communications and Web Design (50 max): 0 Community Service (70 max): 0 Publications (50 max): 0 Event Service: 0 Camarilla-Sponsored Conventions (100 max/event): 0 Camarilla-Attended Conventions (75 max/event): 0 Camarilla Special Events (50 max/event): 0 Storytelling Support (20 max): 0 Organizational Service (40 max): 0 Miscellaneous 0 Recruiting New Member (50 max): 0 Early Renewal: 0 Ordeals: Exceptional Service (50 max): 0 Last Month's Total: 1432g, 322r, 75n, 1801GT This Month's Total: 1452g, 322r, 75n, 1821GT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ============================== Prestige Awards for Non-Tracked Members ============================== Report completed by: ? ? ? ?Melissa McDowell, US2004082008 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ If there is any discrepancy, any questions or suggestions, please feel free to contact me. Thanks. Thank you for your time, Melissa McDowell US2004082008 DC RI-002-D dc at camarillaprovidence.org AIM,YAHOO,MSN: (search for) ricamgirl From silentben37 at hotmail.com Sun Mar 8 18:46:04 2009 From: silentben37 at hotmail.com (Tim Brosnan) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 01:46:04 +0000 Subject: [CamRI] next game? Message-ID: When is the next Mage game again? I'm really hoping I don't have to wait for November as indicated on the domain website. Tim Brosnan _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail?. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From silentben37 at hotmail.com Sun Mar 8 18:49:13 2009 From: silentben37 at hotmail.com (Tim Brosnan) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 01:49:13 +0000 Subject: [CamRI] next game? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: oops keep forgetting to add cam number US2009023655 Tim Brosnan From: silentben37 at hotmail.com To: camri at camarillaprovidence.org Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 01:46:04 +0000 Subject: [CamRI] next game? When is the next Mage game again? I'm really hoping I don't have to wait for November as indicated on the domain website. Tim Brosnan Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail?. See how. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From seangreyson at hotmail.com Mon Mar 9 03:48:00 2009 From: seangreyson at hotmail.com (Seth Dwyer-Frazier) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 06:48:00 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] next game? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I believe the game will be on the Sunday the 22nd. -Seth- ?Green light has properties totally unique in the natural world. It is the only known type of light that first registers at the point furthest from, and then travels backwards to the point of origin. It is amazing that Earth?s scientists have not yet discovered this fact, since it is plainly obvious to anyone who has sat at the back of the line of traffic when the light turned green.? -Secrets of the Universe- From: silentben37 at hotmail.com To: camri at camarillaprovidence.org Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 01:46:04 +0000 Subject: [CamRI] next game? When is the next Mage game again? I'm really hoping I don't have to wait for November as indicated on the domain website. Tim Brosnan Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail?. See how. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Contacts: Organize your contact list. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/marcusatmicrosoft.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!503D1D86EBB2B53C!2285.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_UGC_Contacts_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dimmak42 at gmail.com Mon Mar 9 04:50:49 2009 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com (James Ruggiero) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 07:50:49 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] next game? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mr. Seth would be correct. We hold game on the third full weekend. -Jim US2002023492 On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 6:48 AM, Seth Dwyer-Frazier wrote: > I believe the game will be on the Sunday the 22nd. > > -Seth- > > ?Green light has properties totally unique in the natural world. It is the > only known type of light that first registers at the point furthest from, > and then travels backwards to the point of origin. It is amazing that > Earth?s scientists have not yet discovered this fact, since it is plainly > obvious to anyone who has sat at the back of the line of traffic when the > light turned green.? -Secrets of the Universe- > > > > ------------------------------ > From: silentben37 at hotmail.com > To: camri at camarillaprovidence.org > Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 01:46:04 +0000 > Subject: [CamRI] next game? > > When is the next Mage game again? I'm really hoping I don't have to wait > for November as indicated on the domain website. > > Tim Brosnan > > > ------------------------------ > Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail?. See > how. > ------------------------------ > Windows Live? Contacts: Organize your contact list. Check it out. > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cowgirllyss at yahoo.com Mon Mar 9 12:36:57 2009 From: cowgirllyss at yahoo.com (lyss j) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 12:36:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [CamRI] Next game? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <739520.53539.qm@web57105.mail.re3.yahoo.com> So does this mean that you are only going to be attending Mage?? I think you should give Requiem a try too. Melissa McDowell US2004082008 DC RI-002D ? --- On Mon, 3/9/09, camri-request at camarillaprovidence.org wrote: From: camri-request at camarillaprovidence.org Subject: CamRI Digest, Vol 41, Issue 12 To: camri at camarillaprovidence.org Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 12:00 PM Send CamRI mailing list submissions to camri at camarillaprovidence.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to camri-request at camarillaprovidence.org You can reach the person managing the list at camri-owner at camarillaprovidence.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CamRI digest..." Today's Topics: 1. next game? (Tim Brosnan) 2. Re: next game? (Tim Brosnan) 3. Re: next game? (Seth Dwyer-Frazier) 4. Re: next game? (James Ruggiero) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 01:46:04 +0000 From: Tim Brosnan Subject: [CamRI] next game? To: CamRI Mailinglist Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" When is the next Mage game again? I'm really hoping I don't have to wait for November as indicated on the domain website. Tim Brosnan _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail?. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 01:49:13 +0000 From: Tim Brosnan Subject: Re: [CamRI] next game? To: CamRI Mailinglist Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" oops keep forgetting to add cam number US2009023655 Tim Brosnan From: silentben37 at hotmail.com To: camri at camarillaprovidence.org Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 01:46:04 +0000 Subject: [CamRI] next game? When is the next Mage game again? I'm really hoping I don't have to wait for November as indicated on the domain website. Tim Brosnan Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail?. See how. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 06:48:00 -0400 From: Seth Dwyer-Frazier Subject: Re: [CamRI] next game? To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" I believe the game will be on the Sunday the 22nd. -Seth- ?Green light has properties totally unique in the natural world. It is the only known type of light that first registers at the point furthest from, and then travels backwards to the point of origin. It is amazing that Earth?s scientists have not yet discovered this fact, since it is plainly obvious to anyone who has sat at the back of the line of traffic when the light turned green.? -Secrets of the Universe- From: silentben37 at hotmail.com To: camri at camarillaprovidence.org Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 01:46:04 +0000 Subject: [CamRI] next game? When is the next Mage game again? I'm really hoping I don't have to wait for November as indicated on the domain website. Tim Brosnan Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail?. See how. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Contacts: Organize your contact list. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/marcusatmicrosoft.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!503D1D86EBB2B53C!2285.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_UGC_Contacts_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 07:50:49 -0400 From: James Ruggiero Subject: Re: [CamRI] next game? To: CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Mr. Seth would be correct. We hold game on the third full weekend. -Jim US2002023492 On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 6:48 AM, Seth Dwyer-Frazier wrote: > I believe the game will be on the Sunday the 22nd. > > -Seth- > > ?Green light has properties totally unique in the natural world. It is the > only known type of light that first registers at the point furthest from, > and then travels backwards to the point of origin. It is amazing that > Earth?s scientists have not yet discovered this fact, since it is plainly > obvious to anyone who has sat at the back of the line of traffic when the > light turned green.? -Secrets of the Universe- > > > > ------------------------------ > From: silentben37 at hotmail.com > To: camri at camarillaprovidence.org > Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 01:46:04 +0000 > Subject: [CamRI] next game? > > When is the next Mage game again? I'm really hoping I don't have to wait > for November as indicated on the domain website. > > Tim Brosnan > > > ------------------------------ > Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail?. See > how. > ------------------------------ > Windows Live? Contacts: Organize your contact list. 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In-Reply-To: <739520.53539.qm@web57105.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <739520.53539.qm@web57105.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I am currently working Saturday nights so it's not really an option. Tim Brosnan US2009023655 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 12:36:57 -0700 From: cowgirllyss at yahoo.com To: camri at camarillaprovidence.org Subject: Re: [CamRI] Next game? So does this mean that you are only going to be attending Mage? I think you should give Requiem a try too. Melissa McDowell US2004082008 DC RI-002D --- On Mon, 3/9/09, camri-request at camarillaprovidence.org wrote: From: camri-request at camarillaprovidence.org Subject: CamRI Digest, Vol 41, Issue 12 To: camri at camarillaprovidence.org Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 12:00 PM Send CamRI mailing list submissions to camri at camarillaprovidence.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to camri-request at camarillaprovidence.org You can reach the person managing the list at camri-owner at camarillaprovidence.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CamRI digest..." Today's Topics: 1. next game? (Tim Brosnan) 2. Re: next game? (Tim Brosnan) 3. Re: next game? (Seth Dwyer-Frazier) 4. Re: next game? (James Ruggiero) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 01:46:04 +0000 From: Tim Brosnan Subject: [CamRI] next game? To: CamRI Mailinglist Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" When is the next Mage game again? I'm really hoping I don't have to wait for November as indicated on the domain website. Tim Brosnan _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail?. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 01:49:13 +0000 From: Tim Brosnan Subject: Re: [CamRI] next game? To: CamRI Mailinglist Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" oops keep forgetting to add cam number US2009023655 Tim Brosnan From: silentben37 at hotmail.com To: camri at camarillaprovidence.org Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 01:46:04 +0000 Subject: [CamRI] next game? When is the next Mage game again? I'm really hoping I don't have to wait for November as indicated on the domain website. Tim Brosnan Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail?. See how. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 06:48:00 -0400 From: Seth Dwyer-Frazier Subject: Re: [CamRI] next game? To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" I believe the game will be on the Sunday the 22nd. -Seth- ?Green light has properties totally unique in the natural world. It is the only known type of light that first registers at the point furthest from, and then travels backwards to the point of origin. It is amazing that Earth?s scientists have not yet discovered this fact, since it is plainly obvious to anyone who has sat at the back of the line of traffic when the light turned green.? -Secrets of the Universe- From: silentben37 at hotmail.com To: camri at camarillaprovidence.org Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 01:46:04 +0000 Subject: [CamRI] next game? When is the next Mage game again? I'm really hoping I don't have to wait for November as indicated on the domain website. Tim Brosnan Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail?. See how. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Contacts: Organize your contact list. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/marcusatmicrosoft.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!503D1D86EBB2B53C!2285.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_UGC_Contacts_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 07:50:49 -0400 From: James Ruggiero Subject: Re: [CamRI] next game? To: CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Mr. Seth would be correct. We hold game on the third full weekend. -Jim US2002023492 On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 6:48 AM, Seth Dwyer-Frazier wrote: > I believe the game will be on the Sunday the 22nd. > > -Seth- > > ?Green light has properties totally unique in the natural world. It is the > only known type of light that first registers at the point furthest from, > and then travels backwards to the point of origin. It is amazing that > Earth?s scientists have not yet discovered this fact, since it is plainly > obvious to anyone who has sat at the back of the line of traffic when the > light turned green.? -Secrets of the Universe- > > > > ------------------------------ > From: silentben37 at hotmail.com > To: camri at camarillaprovidence.org > Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 01:46:04 +0000 > Subject: [CamRI] next game? > > When is the next Mage game again? I'm really hoping I don't have to wait > for November as indicated on the domain website. > > Tim Brosnan > > > ------------------------------ > Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail?. See > how. > ------------------------------ > Windows Live? Contacts: Organize your contact list. 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URL: From us2003031415 at hotmail.com Tue Mar 10 14:25:33 2009 From: us2003031415 at hotmail.com (John Tyler) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:25:33 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] FW: [Us-announce] Soft Reset and the US Chronicle In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey guys, huge news from Global. More info can be found here: http://camarilla.white-wolf.com/MST//index.php?option=com_content&task=category§ionid=1&id=1&Itemid=16 ooc: John Tyler US2003031415 RI002D Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:16:04 -0400 From: uscamnst at gmail.com To: us-announce at cammail.white-wolf.com Subject: [Us-announce] Soft Reset and the US Chronicle By now, you have all hopefully seen the email sent by the MST announcing the soft reset of the Camarilla Chronicles. Given the impact of this announcement, I wanted to take a moment to speak to a few things. Please bear with me if I ramble a bit on this. 1) Out of our current options at the moment, this is a net positive. The XP bloat in the current chronicle was stifling and paradigm breaking. This will allow a shift back to what is in the books without wiping out the story from the last 4 years or so. Yes, it will take some work to determine story reasons for it, and my staff and the MST's staff are working on this to have it released ASAP. 2) I have gone on record in the past as being in favor of a Hard Reset. In a perfect world, that is what we would have worked toward. Unfortunately, circumstances that are above my pay grade have made that not an option. After consideration of the options on the table, this was the decision made by the MST. I know many of you are frustrated because there was solid, productive discussion going on in various regions regarding a reset. This information is being brought to you as soon as possible, and the MST's decision was the best given the information available to her. This was the mandate handed down, and this is what we are going to work with to continue telling quality stories. 3) The initial discussion regarding a reset started in January. After the initial discussion, Michelle stated the discussion would be on hold until she could talk to White Wolf in March. This conversation happened earlier than planned, and she came back to us on 3/5 with the initial draft of the reset document and the mandate this was the direction we were going. NSTs made suggestions and raised concerns, some of which have been incorporated in the reset document and some of which have not. At the end of the day, this is the best option we have on the table. 4) Yes, there is the possibility of some players deciding this is a way to screw other players when it comes time for the rewrite. I am requesting that players not do this. If you are planning on taking out another PC, you can wait a few months to do it. Please don't be that guy. On the flip side of this, don't be the other guy that decides to be an ass because he knows there won't be any repercussions. 5) I am positive that many of you will have very strong opinions on this. I am making two requests on this: one, please send your commentary up through the chain if at all possible. This will limit the flood of emails to various people, and I can assure you that as they funnel through me, I will make a clear note of the number of people who share the same opinion. Two, if you feel you must contact the MST directly, be polite and be constructive. Being angry and going on the attack doesn't accomplish anything positive. At the end of the day, the MST is still a member of this organization like anyone else and deserves to be treated with the same respect you request from others. Thank you for taking the time to read this, and I am quite certain I will be hearing the opinions of many of you in the near future. -- Clint Hauser US2002021070 US NST _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail? is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: ATT00000 URL: From vstvampire at camarillaprovidence.org Tue Mar 10 16:34:45 2009 From: vstvampire at camarillaprovidence.org (James A Ruggiero) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:34:45 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] FW: [Us-announce] Soft Reset and the US Chronicle In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hey folks, A few things to note, this doesn't happen until June and this really has very little impact as everyone drops down together. In some ways our VST will probably feel a greater relief when writing plots. Instead of Rank 4 spirits we'll see rank 2 spirits. Thugs won't need 500xp to be a threat. So in reality we lose a few toys but gain the ability to get more succeses. Thing of it this way: Pre reset you have a dice pool of 15, with a 10 you can get 4 successes. If you pull a second 10 its only 6. Post reset you have a dice pool of 8, with a 10 you get 7 successes. If you pull a second 10 you get 7 succeses. Except now you can earn XP and make that better. Got a dice pool of 4? You can actually get a success. In a lot of ways this actually works out better for most folks. If you got a high MC like myself; well you just get more porked. I can live with it. Jim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From seangreyson at hotmail.com Tue Mar 10 18:54:30 2009 From: seangreyson at hotmail.com (Seth Dwyer-Frazier) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:54:30 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] FW: [Us-announce] Soft Reset and the US Chronicle In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: So I've read what I can find so far, but I'm still not 100%. What exactly does this reset do then? -Seth- ?Green light has properties totally unique in the natural world. It is the only known type of light that first registers at the point furthest from, and then travels backwards to the point of origin. It is amazing that Earth?s scientists have not yet discovered this fact, since it is plainly obvious to anyone who has sat at the back of the line of traffic when the light turned green.? -Secrets of the Universe- From: vstvampire at camarillaprovidence.org To: CamRI at CamarillaProvidence.org Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:34:45 -0400 Subject: Re: [CamRI] FW: [Us-announce] Soft Reset and the US Chronicle Hey folks, A few things to note, this doesn?t happen until June and this really has very little impact as everyone drops down together. In some ways our VST will probably feel a greater relief when writing plots. Instead of Rank 4 spirits we?ll see rank 2 spirits. Thugs won?t need 500xp to be a threat. So in reality we lose a few toys but gain the ability to get more succeses. Thing of it this way: Pre reset you have a dice pool of 15, with a 10 you can get 4 successes. If you pull a second 10 its only 6. Post reset you have a dice pool of 8, with a 10 you get 7 successes. If you pull a second 10 you get 7 succeses. Except now you can earn XP and make that better. Got a dice pool of 4? You can actually get a success. In a lot of ways this actually works out better for most folks. If you got a high MC like myself; well you just get more porked. I can live with it. Jim _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Life without walls. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mrcorvin at gmail.com Tue Mar 10 18:59:35 2009 From: mrcorvin at gmail.com (mrcorvin) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:59:35 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] FW: [Us-announce] Soft Reset and the US Chronicle In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2fcf1c2b0903101859o162bb1cbl5119de2ac0fd5cf4@mail.gmail.com> The soft reset resets all of your xp that you earned in game, and resets the amount of XP you have from MC. You rebuild your character with the new XP allotment, and you keep your ties, etc, and you still have access to things to buy later if you know them (like if you have to lop off rotes or rituals, you will be able to buy them back without having to hunt down a teacher). On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 9:54 PM, Seth Dwyer-Frazier wrote: > So I've read what I can find so far, but I'm still not 100%.? What exactly > does this reset do then? > > -Seth- > > ?Green light has properties totally unique in the natural world. It is the > only known type of light that first registers at the point furthest from, > and then travels backwards to the point of origin. It is amazing that > Earth?s scientists have not yet discovered this fact, since it is plainly > obvious to anyone who has sat at the back of the line of traffic when the > light turned green.? -Secrets of the Universe- > > > > ________________________________ > From: vstvampire at camarillaprovidence.org > To: CamRI at CamarillaProvidence.org > Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:34:45 -0400 > Subject: Re: [CamRI] FW: [Us-announce] Soft Reset and the US Chronicle > > Hey folks, > > > > A few things to note, this doesn?t happen until June and this really has > very little impact as everyone drops down together. In some ways our VST > will probably feel a greater relief when writing plots. > > Instead of Rank 4 spirits we?ll see rank 2 spirits. Thugs won?t need 500xp > to be a threat. So in reality we lose a few toys but gain the ability to get > more succeses. > > > > Thing of it this way: > > Pre reset you have a dice pool of 15, with a 10 you can get 4 successes. If > you pull a second 10 its only 6. > > > > Post reset you have a dice pool of 8, with a 10 you get 7 successes. If you > pull a second 10 you get 7 succeses. Except now you can earn XP and make > that better. > > > > Got a dice pool of 4? You can actually get a success. > > > > In a lot of ways this actually works out better for most folks. If you got a > high MC like myself; well you just get more porked. I can live with it. > > > > Jim > > ________________________________ > Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org > > -- OOC: Bill Malvasi US2002021749 From vstvampire at camarillaprovidence.org Tue Mar 10 19:24:33 2009 From: vstvampire at camarillaprovidence.org (James A Ruggiero) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 22:24:33 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] FW: [Us-announce] Soft Reset and the US Chronicle In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3492D1015A44485EBE396EB3788CF693@KOR1> So I've read what I can find so far, but I'm still not 100%.? What exactly does this reset do then? -Seth- It?s pretty simple: 1. Remove all spent XP: all of it. 2. Apply 10 x your MC in XP 3. Apply 3 x the months since your character was created in XP 4. All prior approvals for non custom items are grandfathered. 5. All custom items are gone and need to be re-apped after Dec 2009. All current custom items will be reviewed and if deemed appropriate will be grandfathered in. The player will be contacted via email. I am pretty sure in our domain that simply means me and Jon. So if you got approval for wonky stuff from a book and you can afford it under the new system you can feel free to re-buy it. This is pretty much an even the playing field move. Jim From mrcorvin at gmail.com Tue Mar 10 19:18:50 2009 From: mrcorvin at gmail.com (mrcorvin) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 22:18:50 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] FW: [Us-announce] Soft Reset and the US Chronicle In-Reply-To: <3492D1015A44485EBE396EB3788CF693@KOR1> References: <3492D1015A44485EBE396EB3788CF693@KOR1> Message-ID: <2fcf1c2b0903101918g7dc571dcjea20e19d64d931de@mail.gmail.com> > 3. Apply 3 x the months since your character was created in XP Actually Jim, where does it say that part... I'm having a hard time finding it. -- OOC: Bill Malvasi US2002021749 From vstvampire at camarillaprovidence.org Tue Mar 10 19:34:29 2009 From: vstvampire at camarillaprovidence.org (James A Ruggiero) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 22:34:29 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] FW: [Us-announce] Soft Reset and the US Chronicle In-Reply-To: <2fcf1c2b0903101918g7dc571dcjea20e19d64d931de@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2D80FBFF7A3B4E42A88BC3333B30BCDB@KOR1> Bill, This is directly from: http://camarilla.white-wolf.com/MST//index.php?option=com_content&task=v iew&id=704&Itemid=16 ============================= Character Re-Build: Beginning Date of Reset, members must submit a new, revised character sheet to their approving Storyteller for approval prior to portraying their characters in any way. The character must conform to the guidelines in the Global Addendum as well as the National addenda except where superseded by this document. Characters may not re-purchase items that they did not previously have on their characters as part of this re-build process. Members are encouraged to detail what their characters think from an IC perspective about this Global event and submit that to their approving Storyteller for a downtime experience award. Characters are awarded MC x 10 experience for their rebuild as well as an additional 3 experience per month their character has been in play. Secondaries are created with the same process, but at MC x1 (3 xp per month in play) ===================== Jim From uruzrune at gmail.com Tue Mar 10 19:28:26 2009 From: uruzrune at gmail.com (Alexander J Skrabut) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 22:28:26 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] FW: [Us-announce] Soft Reset and the US Chronicle In-Reply-To: <2D80FBFF7A3B4E42A88BC3333B30BCDB@KOR1> References: <2fcf1c2b0903101918g7dc571dcjea20e19d64d931de@mail.gmail.com> <2D80FBFF7A3B4E42A88BC3333B30BCDB@KOR1> Message-ID: <8f8432d0903101928kd700f30j6168457c16fe7e95@mail.gmail.com> Also, I want to emphasize that this is a character rewrite. This isn't just stripping down to character creation points; you are allowed to rework your character completely. -- Alexander J Skrabut - uruzrune at gmail.com GFM - MA-003-D US2003061708 "There are three basic types, Mr. Pizer: the wills, the won'ts, and the can'ts. The wills accomplish everything, the won'ts oppose everything, and the can'ts won't try anything." - V.I.N.CENT, The Black Hole (1979) On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 10:34 PM, James A Ruggiero < vstvampire at camarillaprovidence.org> wrote: > Bill, > > This is directly from: > http://camarilla.white-wolf.com/MST//index.php?option=com_content&task=v > iew&id=704&Itemid=16 > > ============================= > Character Re-Build: > Beginning Date of Reset, members must submit a new, revised character > sheet to their approving Storyteller for approval prior to portraying > their characters in any way. The character must conform to the > guidelines in the Global Addendum as well as the National addenda except > where superseded by this document. Characters may not re-purchase items > that they did not previously have on their characters as part of this > re-build process. Members are encouraged to detail what their characters > think from an IC perspective about this Global event and submit that to > their approving > Storyteller for a downtime experience award. > > Characters are awarded MC x 10 experience for their rebuild as well as > an additional 3 experience per month their character has been in play. > > Secondaries are created with the same process, but at MC x1 (3 xp per > month in play) > ===================== > > Jim > > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From ecreelman at yahoo.com Wed Mar 11 07:08:54 2009 From: ecreelman at yahoo.com (Elizabeth Creelman) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 07:08:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [CamRI] FW: [Us-announce] Soft Reset and the US Chronicle In-Reply-To: <1686207824E64CFBB6DC3436D6D86969@KOR1> References: <1686207824E64CFBB6DC3436D6D86969@KOR1> Message-ID: <296275.6587.qm@web111408.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> When dose the reset go into effect .....next game , before Dec 09? What is the ruling on this? Thanks to all for their time. Liz ________________________________ From: James A Ruggiero To: CamRI at CamarillaProvidence.org Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 10:44:21 PM Subject: Re: [CamRI] FW: [Us-announce] Soft Reset and the US Chronicle Alexbrings up a good point. We could undo the entire soul stone thing if we wanted. ? In requiem, I will be doing my best to remake my Indian as close as he is now just less dots? I hope. Mr. E well since it takes 180 XP for Mellisidae to be functional I doubt he will be coming back as he is. ? What I like most about this is it gives everyone a nice level playing field at least locally. ? Jim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From uruzrune at gmail.com Wed Mar 11 07:29:50 2009 From: uruzrune at gmail.com (Alexander J Skrabut) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 10:29:50 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] FW: [Us-announce] Soft Reset and the US Chronicle In-Reply-To: <296275.6587.qm@web111408.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1686207824E64CFBB6DC3436D6D86969@KOR1> <296275.6587.qm@web111408.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8f8432d0903110729l3b6e3983p1202fa1c48f2cdcd@mail.gmail.com> June 8th, as the announcement says. -- Alexander J Skrabut - uruzrune at gmail.com GFM - MA-003-D US2003061708 "There are three basic types, Mr. Pizer: the wills, the won'ts, and the can'ts. The wills accomplish everything, the won'ts oppose everything, and the can'ts won't try anything." - V.I.N.CENT, The Black Hole (1979) On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Elizabeth Creelman wrote: > When dose the reset go into effect .....next game , before Dec 09? What is > the ruling on this? Thanks to all for their time. > Liz > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dimmak42 at gmail.com Wed Mar 11 07:43:08 2009 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com (James Ruggiero) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 10:43:08 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] FW: [Us-announce] Soft Reset and the US Chronicle In-Reply-To: <8f8432d0903110729l3b6e3983p1202fa1c48f2cdcd@mail.gmail.com> References: <1686207824E64CFBB6DC3436D6D86969@KOR1> <296275.6587.qm@web111408.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8f8432d0903110729l3b6e3983p1202fa1c48f2cdcd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: June 8th, we can technically petition to go earlier, but I don't think that is necessary. We have the option of recreating our current characters with the new XP or we can use the same amount towards a new character. One major advantage to this reset is now that all the order books are out they can be incorporated and used. We will probably see a lot of books that didn't jive before available for play. This also gives us the ability to tweak our own game, Mage that is, which is 50% of the region. Currently the only active mag game I am aware of is NYC other than RI. I don't know how big their player base is but do we want to take advantage of this to tie in with them at all? This will be happening a month before NERE and it might be nice to have Prov/NY concillium or what ever they call it... I am mage illiterate so ignore my rambling. The more I think on it the more I realize this is going to help us in the long run. Think how satisfying it will be when Sahara gut shots some punk for 5 lethal instead of 3 on a great pull :) Let the delimbing begin!!!! Jim On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Alexander J Skrabut wrote: > June 8th, as the announcement says. > -- > Alexander J Skrabut - uruzrune at gmail.com > GFM - MA-003-D > US2003061708 > > "There are three basic types, Mr. Pizer: the wills, the won'ts, and the > can'ts. The wills accomplish everything, the won'ts oppose everything, and > the can'ts won't try anything." - V.I.N.CENT, The Black Hole (1979) > > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Elizabeth Creelman wrote: > >> When dose the reset go into effect .....next game , before Dec 09? What is >> the ruling on this? Thanks to all for their time. >> Liz >> >> > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From beckett151 at gmail.com Wed Mar 11 08:22:44 2009 From: beckett151 at gmail.com (Phil Armstrong) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 11:22:44 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] FW: [Us-announce] Soft Reset and the US Chronicle In-Reply-To: References: <1686207824E64CFBB6DC3436D6D86969@KOR1> <296275.6587.qm@web111408.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8f8432d0903110729l3b6e3983p1202fa1c48f2cdcd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <11e748a40903110822u40e1fcfcl72f1ee07885040bf@mail.gmail.com> Albany has an active Mage venue, I happen to have a chronicle length PC On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:43 AM, James Ruggiero wrote: > June 8th, we can technically petition to go earlier, but I don't think that > is necessary. > We have the option of recreating our current characters with the new XP or > we can use the same amount towards a new character. > One major advantage to this reset is now that all the order books are out > they can be incorporated and used. > We will probably see a lot of books that didn't jive before available for > play. > This also gives us the ability to tweak our own game, Mage that is, which is > 50% of the region. > Currently the only active mag game I am aware of is NYC other than RI. I > don't know how big their player base is but do we want to take advantage of > this to tie in with them at all? This will be happening a month before NERE > and it might be nice to have Prov/NY concillium or what ever they call it... > I am mage illiterate so ignore my rambling. > > The more I think on it the more I realize this is going to help us in the > long run. Think how satisfying it will be when Sahara gut shots some punk > for 5 lethal instead of 3 on a great pull :) Let the delimbing begin!!!! > > Jim > > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Alexander J Skrabut > wrote: >> >> June 8th, as the announcement says. >> -- >> Alexander J Skrabut - uruzrune at gmail.com >> GFM - MA-003-D >> US2003061708 >> >> "There are three basic types, Mr. Pizer: the wills, the won'ts, and the >> can'ts. The wills accomplish everything, the won'ts oppose everything, and >> the can'ts won't try anything." - V.I.N.CENT, The Black Hole (1979) >> >> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Elizabeth Creelman >> wrote: >>> >>> When dose the reset go into effect .....next game , before Dec 09? What >>> is the ruling on this? Thanks to all for their time. >>> Liz >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CamRI mailing list >> CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org >> >> http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org >> > > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org > > -- Phil Armstrong US2002096585 NE ARST Settings From dimmak42 at gmail.com Wed Mar 11 08:27:46 2009 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com (James Ruggiero) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 11:27:46 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] FW: [Us-announce] Soft Reset and the US Chronicle In-Reply-To: <11e748a40903110822u40e1fcfcl72f1ee07885040bf@mail.gmail.com> References: <1686207824E64CFBB6DC3436D6D86969@KOR1> <296275.6587.qm@web111408.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8f8432d0903110729l3b6e3983p1202fa1c48f2cdcd@mail.gmail.com> <11e748a40903110822u40e1fcfcl72f1ee07885040bf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Phil Armstrong wrote: > Albany has an active Mage venue, I happen to have a chronicle length PC > > Phil Armstrong > US2002096585 > NE ARST Settings > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org > ORLY! How did you not know I wasn't refering to Albany NY.... oh wait I put NYC in there, my bad. Well I meant that Mage right now is played in NY and RI... though other domains have Mage characters. Assuming we don't do a hard reset I say we get some heads together and have a bit of connection. And Phil, you must not love me anymore as you ignore my emails; you could at least give me a snaky blow off... I R Hurtz :(. Anyway thank you for the update; I am an opportunist, let's take this down hill rolling stuff and make some sculptures. Jim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From us2003031415 at hotmail.com Wed Mar 11 11:49:36 2009 From: us2003031415 at hotmail.com (John Tyler) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 14:49:36 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] FW: [Us-announce] Soft Reset and the US Chronicle In-Reply-To: <1686207824E64CFBB6DC3436D6D86969@KOR1> References: <8f8432d0903101928kd700f30j6168457c16fe7e95@mail.gmail.com> <1686207824E64CFBB6DC3436D6D86969@KOR1> Message-ID: One thing I'd like to point out is that the US NST has stated there will be an overriding metaplot explaining the changes. We're not resetting the storyline. What has happened has happened. (The soul stone thing as it costs no xp is unlikely to need to change) I see it as something like this: Some NPC organization (or even maybe an individual) has been poking around in things where they don't belong. It blows up in their faces, causing a bizarre metaphysical ripple effect across the world that somehow effects supernatural powers (thus the loss of powers due to xp loss) as well as the socio-psychological turmoil in the social groups of those characters (thus explaining certain merit losses due to xp loss). As our characters don't have access to our character sheets or out of game knowledge of MC or chronicle length of the character, this will seem random and arbitrary to the PCs possibly causing in character resentments and infighting. If we stick it out, it could lead to all kinds of interesting storylines. ooc: John Tyler US2003031415 RI002D From: vstvampire at camarillaprovidence.org To: CamRI at CamarillaProvidence.org Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 22:44:21 -0400 Subject: Re: [CamRI] FW: [Us-announce] Soft Reset and the US Chronicle Alex brings up a good point. We could undo the entire soul stone thing if we wanted. In requiem, I will be doing my best to remake my Indian as close as he is now just less dots? I hope. Mr. E well since it takes 180 XP for Mellisidae to be functional I doubt he will be coming back as he is. What I like most about this is it gives everyone a nice level playing field at least locally. Jim _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Contacts: Organize your contact list. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/marcusatmicrosoft.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!503D1D86EBB2B53C!2285.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_UGC_Contacts_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From us2003031415 at hotmail.com Wed Mar 11 14:00:36 2009 From: us2003031415 at hotmail.com (John Tyler) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:00:36 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Providence and the reset Message-ID: Hi guys, So we have the reset coming up. Most of you have had a chance to look at the reset rules and figure out how bad it can potentially be for your character. I've heard a lot of people talking about how they don't think they can continue playing the PC's they're playing now once they lose all the flavor bits (merits, powers, etc) that they spent all their xp on. Some domains have even talked about trying to fold their venues and start fresh. I'm thinking maybe we should get a discussion about how we want to respond. Do we want to join the ranks of those looking to start over? Do we want to roll with the punches and see where the storyline carries us? My thoughts on the matter are that we see where things go. As I said in an earlier post, I think this event has the potential to really change things up and bring the ongoing story of our characters in wholly new directions. Do I like losing 2/3 of the xp I've spent on characters (especially Sexton who'll probably lose use of the legacy I waited a year to get approved)? No, of course not. But if the storyline explanation works for me, I'm willing to roll with it. You're thoughts? ooc: John Tyler US2003031415 RI002D _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dimmak42 at gmail.com Wed Mar 11 14:23:12 2009 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com (James Ruggiero) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:23:12 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Providence and the reset In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Well, I have always felt we had a ridiculous amount of XP. And this is mainly because we need ridiculously high dice pools to do mundane things. So I don't mind so much the loss of unilateral power. In perspective its all the same and STs can always tweak NPCs appropriately. I mean look at it now, some folks come out of the gate as double masters... if you played a normal game it would take years of play. As it stands no one in our domain will be coming in with less than 120 xp before we get to MC. For a perspective that is equal to playing 40 table top sessions. That's like playing every week straight for a year! Most table top games start to break up at that point. Now I believe the average MC here is like 6; thats 60 more XP. 180 xp is still a very power character. And there will probably be a lot less over lapping characters. Do we really need 4 death and matter masters? If your a master of Prime chances are no one else is... wow you are godly. To be honest it really is a huge "buff" when you think about it as everything else is brought into perspective and our powers become so much more valuable. But I am flexible and if we want to all throw our hats in remake I am cool too. I mean we got soem new PCs, like the return of Tim B. Anyway I think I'll go dance on the edge of the light of day now, ttyl, Jim Ruggiero US2002023492 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chrispy at camarillaprovidence.org Wed Mar 11 17:03:53 2009 From: chrispy at camarillaprovidence.org (chrispy at camarillaprovidence.org) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:03:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [CamRI] Providence and the reset In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <60328.72.192.19.55.1236816233.squirrel@www.camarillaprovidence.org> I don't know about all of this, I'm still not convinced. I mean it's the MST's call, so it's not like it matters at this point, but to me it feels like the people who are really getting screwed are the newer players, the MCs 1-4 who have only been playing a year or two. Those of us with higher MCs will still come out with relatively powerful characters (if toned down somewhat). As Jim says, we're all stepping down together. But in the end, I do not see how this evens the playing field. Many of the newer players were able to play alongside higher MCs because they'd been playing in a particular venue for a long time and had enough xp on a CS. Now with this little stunt, the newer players who depend on the monthly xp to give them any sort of even ground with higher MCs get screwed, while the Higher MCs still get to come out of all this with a relatively high powered character. I understand the problem of XP bloat, but with lagging interest, venues closing, and and shrinking numbers of regular players, it seems to me, this would be the last thing the Cam needed to do. We're losing 70% of the Xp earned by monthly attendance to date. If they wanted to help out newer players, why not cut down the amount of XP from the MC levels and leave monthly XP alone. John Tyler, The US NST asked us to send our thoughts up the chain. Please pass this along up the chain. I am highly disappointed in this reset. I appreciate Jim looking on the bright side, but I just don't see it. Chrispy US2002045211 From 8ernallysecure at gmail.com Wed Mar 11 19:40:26 2009 From: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com (Mr. Shaz) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 22:40:26 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Providence and the reset: Balancing Act In-Reply-To: <60328.72.192.19.55.1236816233.squirrel@www.camarillaprovidence.org> References: <60328.72.192.19.55.1236816233.squirrel@www.camarillaprovidence.org> Message-ID: <49B8761A.4060009@gmail.com> Good Evening, I've been keeping mum, but I feel I can speak out about this aspect. The reset will bring balance between High MC players, long-lived PCs, and new players. I'm going to ballpark some numbers. Gobi- MC5, chronicle PC (let's call it 40mos to be easy) MC XP: 50; Chron XP: 120 Total 170 Lowmax- MC1, Chron PC MC XP: 10; Chron XP: 120 Total 130 Brosniox- MC6; New PC MC XP: 60; Chron XP: 3 Total 63 Nooblin- MC1; New PC MC XP: 10; Chron XP: 0 Total 10 Looking at those numbers, we see that the player who has spent time playing their character actually makes out better than the high MC player. Figure a year to get an MC vs a year of play, the MC gets you 10, the RP gets you 12. Yes, there's a range all along the bell curve, but the end result is that both long lived PCs and high MC players make out fairly evenly. In fact, long RP is rewarded over High MC, just compare Lowmax to Brosniox. Beyond the XP, the 8dev3 system is what really makes the reset mechanically balanced. You want to leap between buildings: You spend 9 xp for two dots in Athletics and your start build Dex of 3, you have an 80% chance of making it. 80% for 9xp! Under the current system, the same stats would give you a 50% chance. Hence, the newbie can still have good odds of keeping up with the bigger guns because it's simply more likely that they will succeed. Brosniox may not do 5 lethal every hit like Sahara does, but he has MUCH better odds of getting a hit and at least contributing to the fight rather than having to hope for a 10. And for what it's worth, I'm not happy about possibly losing my Legacy, but I REALLY hated how all of us were hitting multiple mastery when even hitting single mastery is supposed to be a phenomenal achievement. Have A Good Night, Jonathan McDowell, Sr. US2002045163 From dimmak42 at gmail.com Wed Mar 11 20:36:03 2009 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com (James Ruggiero) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 23:36:03 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Providence and the reset: Balancing Act In-Reply-To: <49B8761A.4060009@gmail.com> References: <60328.72.192.19.55.1236816233.squirrel@www.camarillaprovidence.org> <49B8761A.4060009@gmail.com> Message-ID: Well, What if we all reroll and forfeit our MC and monthly XP? Complete and utter reset of the playing field? Would you all be willing to do that together in Mage? Requiem? I agree, it sucks to lose all this XP. But lets face how daunting it is to be a new player and go ok here spend these dots, not buy all this stuff with this XP. Don't you feel powerful oh don;t mind that guy who has 800xp while you only have 50xp. Just so you understand how crazy it is right now my primary requiem PC Elauwit has 888xp... 888xp... look at that again that's not a 3 in front that's an 8. And I could have had a lot more if I pushed for my MC reviews and claimed all my over cap. I have seen sheets with 1000xp. So lets say we just strip out his MC... bam 320 xp poof gone... wham bam thank you mam go play with your 568xp... boggling that he has that much aint it? So i crunched the numbers, removed the fluff and with ~250 xp I've recreated my elder with his 5 years of play. You know what he is very playable. Personlly I think they should have done the hard reset; let us go out in a bang and start fresh. Personally I think some of our flagging interest is that we have characters that are so powerful... I mean come on we're playing freaking walking gods right now. Why in the world do we even care what happens to the mortal world. Kill someone I care about? Bah I can ressurect them in my basement, reattach their soul, and make them my eternal slave all while changing their clothing style on the side. Doc could mentally change the entire city while curing cancer. Deacon can summon godlings accidently that want bacon... and then there is Sexton who can single handedly corner the S&M market in Providence. Don't get me wrong I definately see Chrispy's point in this. It sucks to have less once we already tasted more. The question what should we do with it now that its handed to us? Finally there is still a lot of discusion going on and its better to take an up front nerf rather than a bunch of little ones. If the powers that be go wow we went too far they can always add more XP. But if they go crap we need to take more away we'd be helluvah upset. Do we pine for what was lost, or do we run with what we are given? Jim Ruggiero US2002023492 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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A soft reset however leaves story intact, but loses the players the abilities they used in order to impact the story. My character is known as a master of Spirit as an example. The chronicle's history and story acknowledge this. Now I have the ability to massage my character in a different direction. So "Nocaed" now is a much less widely skilled character and may not even be a master of Spirit. Um what? How does that mesh into the story arcs. Perhaps this matters less in Vampire, where characters are more defined by Clan and Covenant, and less by the powers they use. A hard reset would have given us the freedom to make new characters, independent of what came before. A soft reset leaves us with creating characters that have little relationship to what we once were, or worse we create a character that is a shadow of what they once were. It's not just a matter of lessened powers, it's the fact that we are trying to retcon the game to fit the new facts. I've seen too many retcons fail miserably to accept we'll be able to refresh the game with a soft reset. The powers are ridiculous, don't get me wrong, and I'm not concerned with losing a mastery here or there. It's the fact that we're being forced to refresh characters without any way to refresh what those characters went through. -Seth- ?Green light has properties totally unique in the natural world. It is the only known type of light that first registers at the point furthest from, and then travels backwards to the point of origin. It is amazing that Earth?s scientists have not yet discovered this fact, since it is plainly obvious to anyone who has sat at the back of the line of traffic when the light turned green.? -Secrets of the Universe- Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 23:36:03 -0400 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com To: CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org Subject: Re: [CamRI] Providence and the reset: Balancing Act Well, What if we all reroll and forfeit our MC and monthly XP? Complete and utter reset of the playing field? Would you all be willing to do that together in Mage? Requiem? I agree, it sucks to lose all this XP. But lets face how daunting it is to be a new player and go ok here spend these dots, not buy all this stuff with this XP. Don't you feel powerful oh don;t mind that guy who has 800xp while you only have 50xp. Just so you understand how crazy it is right now my primary requiem PC Elauwit has 888xp... 888xp... look at that again that's not a 3 in front that's an 8. And I could have had a lot more if I pushed for my MC reviews and claimed all my over cap. I have seen sheets with 1000xp. So lets say we just strip out his MC... bam 320 xp poof gone... wham bam thank you mam go play with your 568xp... boggling that he has that much aint it? So i crunched the numbers, removed the fluff and with ~250 xp I've recreated my elder with his 5 years of play. You know what he is very playable. Personlly I think they should have done the hard reset; let us go out in a bang and start fresh. Personally I think some of our flagging interest is that we have characters that are so powerful... I mean come on we're playing freaking walking gods right now. Why in the world do we even care what happens to the mortal world. Kill someone I care about? Bah I can ressurect them in my basement, reattach their soul, and make them my eternal slave all while changing their clothing style on the side. Doc could mentally change the entire city while curing cancer. Deacon can summon godlings accidently that want bacon... and then there is Sexton who can single handedly corner the S&M market in Providence. Don't get me wrong I definately see Chrispy's point in this. It sucks to have less once we already tasted more. The question what should we do with it now that its handed to us? Finally there is still a lot of discusion going on and its better to take an up front nerf rather than a bunch of little ones. If the powers that be go wow we went too far they can always add more XP. But if they go crap we need to take more away we'd be helluvah upset. Do we pine for what was lost, or do we run with what we are given? Jim Ruggiero US2002023492 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail? is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tkitch at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 04:40:31 2009 From: tkitch at gmail.com (Mike ''Thrasher'' Kitchenman) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:40:31 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Caveats on the Reset: Message-ID: Here are a few interesting points for the reset: 1) Your Morality Trait (Harmony, Wisdom, Humanity, Clarity, etc.) Stays the same, for no XP. If you've got clarity 4 on June 7th, on June 8th it's a 4. If you have Harmony 10, it stays a 10. No spend needed. 2) Willpower stays the same. If you've got WP 10 now, and after the respec you can only afford Composure 3 and Resolve 3, you keep the 10 WP. Special IC Groups: (Lodges, Entitlements, Bloodlines, or ... whatever they're called in Mage and I'm blanking on right now.) These currently Vary how they're handled, for if you can't afford all the Pre-Requesites: Bloodlines: You keep it. Can't use the woogie, until you qualify. Lodges: Keep it, can't use it until you qualify again. Entitlement: You Lose it, But, since you keep the app, you can get it back when you have the pre=reqs again. Mage: You keep it, but cannot use the attainments until you qualify correctly again. (And yes, sacking 1XP/mo again, was the last I saw on it.) These have been clarified by the Reset Project Assistant, David Bounds. More as I see them. -Kitch US2007039619 -- Thrasher Kitch Huh, did I miss someting? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From silvergryphon22 at hotmail.com Thu Mar 12 04:47:59 2009 From: silvergryphon22 at hotmail.com (Nadia Ryper) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:47:59 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Providence and the reset In-Reply-To: <225183.46375.qm@web111508.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <225183.46375.qm@web111508.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Personally, I am definitely keeping Kaoniki and Nora, my primary characters. The time and effort that went into making them at creation along with the stories that have been told and that I am not ready to end are my reasons. On the other hand, I am probably not keeping Sabrina, my Requiem Secondary. At MC1 with Chron start XP, she would have nearly as much XP as some of the elders in Norwich. Because Sabrina is only 4 years a vampire, I don't think that fits. You see, now that the mechanics have been fixed, we don't need so many attributes at 5 anymore. Sabrina was already pwning Asira (scary Rakshasa assasin) with Dominate Commands at a 4/3/3 pull. With the rewrite, I could min-max her to 5/4/4 and characters like Asira who have low resistance would be groveling to a neonate. As funny as that might be for 5 minutes, it does not fit the paradigm. Read the above carefully. Sabrina was built on MC1 and is 4. years. embraced. Those of you who have been playing a character since chron start at MC 3 will have no trouble making your characters effective. The mechanics have been boosted. If everyone else in the domain wants to completely reset, I will likely just move my characters elsewhere, and make secondaries here. Diana Ruggiero US2003061734 RI-001-D "Comfort the Disturbed and Disturb the Comfortable" > Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 22:06:37 -0700 > From: alucard_333 at yahoo.com > To: CamRI at CamarillaProvidence.org > Subject: Re: [CamRI] Providence and the reset > > > Hi all, > We have heard from a few people, but what about the rest of you. What does everyone think. I personally would like to tough it out with our current characters, but what does the domain want. > Your friendly neighborhood DST Herbie > US2002106772 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Contacts: Organize your contact list. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/marcusatmicrosoft.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!503D1D86EBB2B53C!2285.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_UGC_Contacts_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mrcorvin at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 04:53:32 2009 From: mrcorvin at gmail.com (mrcorvin) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:53:32 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Providence and the reset In-Reply-To: References: <225183.46375.qm@web111508.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2fcf1c2b0903120453m760d1a3j48e908f8d118b019@mail.gmail.com> > You see, now that the mechanics have been fixed, we don't need so many > attributes at 5 anymore.? Sabrina was already pwning Asira (scary Rakshasa > assasin) with Dominate Commands at a 4/3/3 pull.? With the rewrite, I could > min-max her to 5/4/4 and characters like Asira who have low resistance would > be groveling to a neonate.? As funny as that might be for 5 minutes, it does > not fit the paradigm. Honestly, while a post on this list helped me to re-evaluate things and the 8/3 is better then the 10/5, it doesn't help certain things that were a part of a concept character, even if they weren't game breaking things. For example, Thaumium creation in Mage, you need Matter 5, Prime 4, and Death 3, because of the rotes you need to make the perfected metals. (Create Thauminum is the Matter 5 Prime 4 Rote, plus 2 death rotes). While it severely hurts my concept, I already have somewhat of a way to work through this, which is good, but has nothing to do with the 8/3 pools, and would basically leave my character unphased. -- OOC: Bill Malvasi US2002021749 From tkitch at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 05:03:35 2009 From: tkitch at gmail.com (Mike ''Thrasher'' Kitchenman) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 08:03:35 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Caveats on the Reset: In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sorry, The position on the entitlements changed. You stay in it, but don't have access to the benefits until you meet the pre-reqs again. -Kitch US2007039619 On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 7:40 AM, Mike ''Thrasher'' Kitchenman < tkitch at gmail.com> wrote: > > Here are a few interesting points for the reset: > > 1) Your Morality Trait (Harmony, Wisdom, Humanity, Clarity, etc.) Stays the > same, for no XP. If you've got clarity 4 on June 7th, on June 8th it's a > 4. If you have Harmony 10, it stays a 10. No spend needed. > > 2) Willpower stays the same. If you've got WP 10 now, and after the respec > you can only afford Composure 3 and Resolve 3, you keep the 10 WP. > > > Special IC Groups: (Lodges, Entitlements, Bloodlines, or ... whatever > they're called in Mage and I'm blanking on right now.) > > These currently Vary how they're handled, for if you can't afford all the > Pre-Requesites: > > Bloodlines: You keep it. Can't use the woogie, until you qualify. > > Lodges: Keep it, can't use it until you qualify again. > > Entitlement: You Lose it, But, since you keep the app, you can get it > back when you have the pre=reqs again. > > Mage: You keep it, but cannot use the attainments until you qualify > correctly again. (And yes, sacking 1XP/mo again, was the last I saw on it.) > > > > These have been clarified by the Reset Project Assistant, David Bounds. > > More as I see them. > > > -Kitch > US2007039619 > > -- > Thrasher Kitch > Huh, did I miss someting? > -- Thrasher Kitch Huh, did I miss someting? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 8ernallysecure at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 05:04:52 2009 From: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com (8ernallysecure at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:04:52 +0000 Subject: [CamRI] The reset and You Message-ID: <149508875-1236859414-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1274551143-@bxe1052.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Good Morning, There's really no way to reconcile the concerns we have. This issue is a mere 48 hours old, if that. And it's not happening for another three months. The fact is, a story is coming which will explain the reset ICly. Even if it's a massively obvious deus ex machina, it won't be an unexplained change. Your PC will change and everyone will know IC and OC why because they will be there with you. A great parallel can be found in modern X-Men comics where a great mystic effect wiped out 90% of all mutants. Some characters changed, some didn't, some had to fight hard to keep being heroes without their powers or old defining traits. New stories were made and that's the key. You do not need to, and I would argue should not, majorly change who your PC is or what they have done. What makes our PCs great is not what they can do, especially not in Awakening. It has always been how we act. Powers honestly muck things up. English leading others to euthanize prisoners, Sahara shooting offenders and taking them on with all she has, Dusk healing by hand or magic...none of that changes. Yes, your PC will say "I used to be able to rebuild nervous systems, now I can barely heal knife wounds." That's a wake-up call that PCs get to play out. Were they nothing more than magic/blood? How do they cope when that crutch is taken away? PCs like Sahara and English should be ecstatic as the Veil will be easier to maintain without the risk of phenomenal cosmic effects going off. And yet, something tells me at least one of them won't be ICly thrilled. What does that mean? How will affect them? We've played powerhouses. Now we get to play the opposite story: the death and return of Superman. I believe one line in that story read "Six hours! I used to fly cross country in six minutes!" But it's clear that he was still Superman and still had to go face the same crazy odds to be who he was and had always been. That didn't change. Nor will it change for us. Have A Great Day, Jon Have A Great Day, Jonathan McDowell, Sr. US2002045163 From camarilla at childofchaos.com Thu Mar 12 05:26:41 2009 From: camarilla at childofchaos.com (Shuniqua Rodriguez) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 08:26:41 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Providence and the reset In-Reply-To: References: <225183.46375.qm@web111508.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49B8FF81.6070402@childofchaos.com> Diana, Thank you for the mental image of Asira groveling to a neonate. And I'm glad you're keeping Kaoniki (haven't had much interaction with Nora... or have I? Is that your fmr. mortal?) -Shu Nadia Ryper wrote: > Personally, I am definitely keeping Kaoniki and Nora, my primary characters. > > The time and effort that went into making them at creation along with the stories that have been told and that I am not ready to end are my reasons. > > On the other hand, I am probably not keeping Sabrina, my Requiem Secondary. At MC1 with Chron start XP, she would have nearly as much XP as some of the elders in Norwich. Because Sabrina is only 4 years a vampire, I don't think that fits. > > You see, now that the mechanics have been fixed, we don't need so many attributes at 5 anymore. Sabrina was already pwning Asira (scary Rakshasa assasin) with Dominate Commands at a 4/3/3 pull. With the rewrite, I could min-max her to 5/4/4 and characters like Asira who have low resistance would be groveling to a neonate. As funny as that might be for 5 minutes, it does not fit the paradigm. > > Read the above carefully. Sabrina was built on MC1 and is 4. years. embraced. Those of you who have been playing a character since chron start at MC 3 will have no trouble making your characters effective. The mechanics have been boosted. > > If everyone else in the domain wants to completely reset, I will likely just move my characters elsewhere, and make secondaries here. > > Diana Ruggiero > US2003061734 > RI-001-D > "Comfort the Disturbed and Disturb the Comfortable" > > -- Shuniqua Rodriguez US2002086541 AIM: GMCAddicted Y!: maevedracorum GTalk: shuniqua.rodriguez at gmail.com ICQ: 17781119 From seangreyson at hotmail.com Thu Mar 12 06:18:26 2009 From: seangreyson at hotmail.com (Seth Dwyer-Frazier) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 09:18:26 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] The reset and You In-Reply-To: <149508875-1236859414-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1274551143-@bxe1052.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <149508875-1236859414-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1274551143-@bxe1052.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: Hold on Jon, I was bouncing back and forth on this issue, but now you've gone and done it. You want me to support an action that can be compared to House of M?!?!?!?!? What are you, some kind of monster? However the problem is that your example doesn't hold really. My understanding is that there isn't supposed to be a single event doing this exactly. It's coming in with a whimper rather than a bang. The other reason the example doesn't match is House of M removed 99% of the world's mutants (though strangely only a few name characters actually suffered, shocking). What is happening here is that experience is being reduced arbitrarily but we're still going to get back to the same point we were at now. Once that happens we'll be in the exact same situation. The MST's email stated that this is something to give us the opportunity to go off in a new direction with our characters. It isn't about the powers lost, it's about the fact that we're supposed to retcon everything that came before. John T's suggestion isn't a bad one. If we wanted to refresh the venue, then I say we kill off all the characters and create new ones. In fact in that case the new characters could even investigate what happened to the existing characters. But much like House of M, or One More Day, creating a situation that creates a change in the nature of a character without giving them an opportunity to correct the problem is unfair and frustrating. -Seth- ?Green light has properties totally unique in the natural world. It is the only known type of light that first registers at the point furthest from, and then travels backwards to the point of origin. It is amazing that Earth?s scientists have not yet discovered this fact, since it is plainly obvious to anyone who has sat at the back of the line of traffic when the light turned green.? -Secrets of the Universe- > To: camri at camarillaprovidence.org > From: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com > Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:04:52 +0000 > Subject: [CamRI] The reset and You > > Good Morning, > > There's really no way to reconcile the concerns we have. This issue is a mere 48 hours old, if that. And it's not happening for another three months. The fact is, a story is coming which will explain the reset ICly. Even if it's a massively obvious deus ex machina, it won't be an unexplained change. Your PC will change and everyone will know IC and OC why because they will be there with you. > A great parallel can be found in modern X-Men comics where a great mystic effect wiped out 90% of all mutants. Some characters changed, some didn't, some had to fight hard to keep being heroes without their powers or old defining traits. New stories were made and that's the key. > You do not need to, and I would argue should not, majorly change who your PC is or what they have done. What makes our PCs great is not what they can do, especially not in Awakening. It has always been how we act. Powers honestly muck things up. English leading others to euthanize prisoners, Sahara shooting offenders and taking them on with all she has, Dusk healing by hand or magic...none of that changes. Yes, your PC will say "I used to be able to rebuild nervous systems, now I can barely heal knife wounds." That's a wake-up call that PCs get to play out. Were they nothing more than magic/blood? How do they cope when that crutch is taken away? PCs like Sahara and English should be ecstatic as the Veil will be easier to maintain without the risk of phenomenal cosmic effects going off. And yet, something tells me at least one of them won't be ICly thrilled. What does that mean? How will affect them? We've played powerhouses. Now we get to play the opposite story: the death and return of Superman. I believe one line in that story read "Six hours! I used to fly cross country in six minutes!" But it's clear that he was still Superman and still had to go face the same crazy odds to be who he was and had always been. That didn't change. > > Nor will it change for us. > > Have A Great Day, > Jon > Have A Great Day, > > Jonathan McDowell, Sr. > US2002045163 > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail?. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chrispy at camarillaprovidence.org Thu Mar 12 07:26:14 2009 From: chrispy at camarillaprovidence.org (chrispy at camarillaprovidence.org) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:26:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [CamRI] The reset and You In-Reply-To: References: <149508875-1236859414-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1274551143-@bxe1052.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <62109.72.192.19.55.1236867974.squirrel@www.camarillaprovidence.org> I understand this is a moot point, its already been decided, and I'm just bitching, but this really aggravates me. I have a relatively decent MC as does Liz so I'm not concerned about our characters. My issue is that the newer players once more are getting hurt by this, you can make up theoretical characters and talk about bell curves but they only fit the example, not the many new players out there. We talk about how we're walking gods and that's why no one is interested in playing anymore. I think that is only true for those of us who are actually playing true gods. I very clearly remember being a newer player and being in awe of Claudius, Woodworth and wanting to be able to really play with the abilities in the book. Not everyone was walking around as a god. In our venue, sure we were, but we've been playing for 4 years or more in most cases. WE were getting bored playing gods; what about all those who were aspiring to get their characters up to that level. (Which is what we all aspire to) With us all start at baseline scratch, MC gives you ten XP, monthly XP gives you three. Those newer players have just seen their XP pool drop by 70% and they don't have the MC to even remotely balance it. The pool they depended on to play alongside the higher MCs just went down by 70%. I thought wall street was doing badly! Those of us with higher MCs can walk out of this with a trimmed down character, but one that can still be highly effective. At this point it's like Jim said, do we bitch or move on? Its a moot point. But these kinds of hard feelings are the last thing the Cam needs right now, and I hope the upper brass starts getting the picture. Chrispy US2002045211 From dimmak42 at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 07:30:11 2009 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com (James Ruggiero) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:30:11 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Providence and the reset: Balancing Act In-Reply-To: References: <60328.72.192.19.55.1236816233.squirrel@www.camarillaprovidence.org> <49B8761A.4060009@gmail.com> Message-ID: Well, I understand Seth's concern with suddenly being a master and then not being a master. But lets look at it from another angle, we all made our characters at the same time June of 06. That means we as a domain are working with 108 XP + MC *10. This means no one will start with less than 118 xp in our domain. 45 xp and 6 merit dots means you can be a master and still have more than half your XP left over. Further you will have a dice pool of 10 (5 arcana, 3 Gnosis and 2 from High Speech) for casting. On average you will be pulling 3 successes on your quick casts. This is master arcanum at 2-5 successes without a rote. 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Keep your chins up, it is not as bad as it seems. -- Phil Armstrong US2002096585 NE ARST Settings From dimmak42 at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 07:41:56 2009 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com (James Ruggiero) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:41:56 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] The reset and You In-Reply-To: <62109.72.192.19.55.1236867974.squirrel@www.camarillaprovidence.org> References: <149508875-1236859414-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1274551143-@bxe1052.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <62109.72.192.19.55.1236867974.squirrel@www.camarillaprovidence.org> Message-ID: Clarification: Our converted characters will receive 3 xp per month of play to represent that they have already been in play. >From June forward the cap of earned xp is 8. That means a new player will come in at 10xp but can earn 8 xp a month. If they strive for it it would take a dedicated 5 months of play without an MC increase to become a master. Mind you that player will still have at least one arcanum at 3. Brand new spanking mage out of the box starts with 3/2/1 arcanum... give them a few months they could be a master. I don't feel a new player is really that far behind. Before the reset a player would have 50 instead of 10 XP while an MC 6 player would have 230 XP. While the proportionate difference is about the same in truth the new player has the ability to actually catch up much faster than before. I am leaning more towards keeping our current characters the more I think about it. Oh btw sheets.camarilla.ca has amazing spread sheets that do all the calculations for you if you want to down load them. Jim US2002023492 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From silentben37 at hotmail.com Thu Mar 12 07:58:14 2009 From: silentben37 at hotmail.com (Tim Brosnan) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:58:14 +0000 Subject: [CamRI] Providence and the reset: Balancing Act In-Reply-To: <11e748a40903120733i2ad1922dl877d72a25ed047a2@mail.gmail.com> References: <60328.72.192.19.55.1236816233.squirrel@www.camarillaprovidence.org> <49B8761A.4060009@gmail.com> <11e748a40903120733i2ad1922dl877d72a25ed047a2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I'm going to start by stating that my opinion is some what out of the norm since I lose nothing with either option. I can understand that characters can come to be defined by what they can do rather than who they are. Very similar to real life, particularly with sports players, he's the guy that throws 60 yard passes. He's the guy that counters any spell. But as the sports icon gets older he may lose his role, but he is still the same guy. He still has the same defining personality. Seeing as there is going to be storyline I am going to say this not quite a ret con, ret cons rewrite the past, this is writing the future. I will also note that I am not a forum junkie and don't always have the most recent nor most accurate information for my opinions. I'm content with any decision, I'm not personally affected, but I encourage everyone to give it at least a chance to see what the muckity mucks have planned. As a side note a venue nuke only makes the XP differential more pronounced. As Brosinox there will have the nice shiny high MC xp and the rest have zlich. 3 is better than 0. Tim Brosnan us2009023655 > Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:33:06 -0400 > From: beckett151 at gmail.com > To: CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > Subject: Re: [CamRI] Providence and the reset: Balancing Act > > All is not lost in Mage. I re built my sheet last night, and while I > do have a Chronicle MC 11 PC, I was able to reduce down to my rebuild > XP and keep most of everything intact. I think Mage is actually the > easiest Venue to rebuild in honestly. Keep your chins up, it is not > as bad as it seems. > > > > > -- > Phil Armstrong > US2002096585 > NE ARST Settings > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Contacts: Organize your contact list. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/marcusatmicrosoft.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!503D1D86EBB2B53C!2285.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_UGC_Contacts_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mrcorvin at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 08:02:02 2009 From: mrcorvin at gmail.com (mrcorvin) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:02:02 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Providence and the reset In-Reply-To: References: <225183.46375.qm@web111508.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <49B8FF81.6070402@childofchaos.com> Message-ID: <2fcf1c2b0903120802q2bb58754oecc6a04da35c9c23@mail.gmail.com> Like Mother like son, cause it's hard out here for a pimp. On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 10:54 AM, James Ruggiero wrote: > Nora is the crazy mortal went mage... remember Gralic fest Shu? -- OOC: Bill Malvasi US2002021749 From camarilla at childofchaos.com Thu Mar 12 07:56:47 2009 From: camarilla at childofchaos.com (Shuniqua Rodriguez) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:56:47 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Providence and the reset In-Reply-To: References: <225183.46375.qm@web111508.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <49B8FF81.6070402@childofchaos.com> Message-ID: <49B922AF.7070805@childofchaos.com> Ahhhhhhhh! Stay away from my mage! lol -Shu James Ruggiero wrote: > Nora is the crazy mortal went mage... remember Gralic fest Shu? > > Jim > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org > -- Shuniqua Rodriguez US2002086541 AIM: GMCAddicted Y!: maevedracorum GTalk: shuniqua.rodriguez at gmail.com ICQ: 17781119 From mrcorvin at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 08:52:52 2009 From: mrcorvin at gmail.com (mrcorvin) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:52:52 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Providence and the reset: Balancing Act In-Reply-To: References: <60328.72.192.19.55.1236816233.squirrel@www.camarillaprovidence.org> <49B8761A.4060009@gmail.com> <11e748a40903120733i2ad1922dl877d72a25ed047a2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2fcf1c2b0903120852k2dafdc14h9b984e713dfc4f02@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Tim Brosnan wrote: > I'm going to start by stating that my opinion is some what out of the norm > since? I lose nothing with either option. > > I can understand that characters can come to be defined by what they can do > rather than who they are.? Very similar to real life, particularly with > sports players, he's the guy that throws 60 yard passes.? He's the guy that > counters any spell.? But as the sports icon gets older he may lose his role, > but he is still the same guy.? He still has the same defining personality. In June, if Kobe Bryant gets owned by a High School Basketball player, let me know. This isn't a "Getting older losing a step" this is "One day I'm cool next day, WHAM..." Depending on the concept it's either getting hit by a car and getting brain damage/loss of bodily function (depending on your stats/abilities) -- OOC: Bill Malvasi US2002021749 From silvergryphon22 at hotmail.com Thu Mar 12 09:07:00 2009 From: silvergryphon22 at hotmail.com (Nadia Ryper) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:07:00 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Providence and the reset: Balancing Act In-Reply-To: <2fcf1c2b0903120852k2dafdc14h9b984e713dfc4f02@mail.gmail.com> References: <60328.72.192.19.55.1236816233.squirrel@www.camarillaprovidence.org> <49B8761A.4060009@gmail.com> <11e748a40903120733i2ad1922dl877d72a25ed047a2@mail.gmail.com> <2fcf1c2b0903120852k2dafdc14h9b984e713dfc4f02@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: This isn't a "Getting older losing a step" this is "One day I'm cool > next day, WHAM..." > > Depending on the concept it's either getting hit by a car and getting > brain damage/loss of bodily function (depending on your > stats/abilities) But you know, that does happen. It happens in our lives, it happens in some of the greatest fiction. Look at Bilbo Baggins after he gives the One Ring to Frodo...and the same thing happens to Frodo after the ring is destroyed. Losses generate story elements. Torpor is a mechanic built in to Requiem, for example, that illustrates this. So is a Mage's separation from the rest of the world. Coping makes story. What would have happened if Frodo had refused to take the ring? That would have been a boring story, wouldn't it? Diana Ruggiero US2003061734 RI-001-D "Comfort the Disturbed and Disturb the Comfortable" > Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:52:52 -0400 > From: mrcorvin at gmail.com > To: CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > Subject: Re: [CamRI] Providence and the reset: Balancing Act > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Tim Brosnan wrote: > > I'm going to start by stating that my opinion is some what out of the norm > > since I lose nothing with either option. > > > > I can understand that characters can come to be defined by what they can do > > rather than who they are. Very similar to real life, particularly with > > sports players, he's the guy that throws 60 yard passes. He's the guy that > > counters any spell. But as the sports icon gets older he may lose his role, > > but he is still the same guy. He still has the same defining personality. > > In June, if Kobe Bryant gets owned by a High School Basketball player, > let me know. > > This isn't a "Getting older losing a step" this is "One day I'm cool > next day, WHAM..." > > Depending on the concept it's either getting hit by a car and getting > brain damage/loss of bodily function (depending on your > stats/abilities) > > -- > OOC: > Bill Malvasi > US2002021749 > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Life without walls. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mrcorvin at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 09:15:34 2009 From: mrcorvin at gmail.com (mrcorvin) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:15:34 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Providence and the reset: Balancing Act In-Reply-To: References: <60328.72.192.19.55.1236816233.squirrel@www.camarillaprovidence.org> <49B8761A.4060009@gmail.com> <11e748a40903120733i2ad1922dl877d72a25ed047a2@mail.gmail.com> <2fcf1c2b0903120852k2dafdc14h9b984e713dfc4f02@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2fcf1c2b0903120915s48d003c1q7d35969d8ec8f1ff@mail.gmail.com> > This isn't a "Getting older losing a step" this is "One day I'm cool >> next day, WHAM..." >> >> Depending on the concept it's either getting hit by a car and getting >> brain damage/loss of bodily function (depending on your >> stats/abilities) > > > But you know, that does happen.? It happens in our lives, it happens in some > of the greatest fiction.? Look at Bilbo Baggins after he gives the One Ring > to Frodo...and the same thing happens to Frodo after the ring is destroyed. I agree that it does happen, I'm just saying that the comparison in this case doesn't work, hence, the WHAM. :) Apologizes if it sounded like complaining (in the sense of this being a text format, I genuinely mean that), I was just debating schematics. > Coping makes story.? What would have happened if Frodo had refused to take > the ring?? That would have been a boring story, wouldn't it? Gandalf would have ruled the world and there would be chaos and distruction and gnome parts all over teh shire. -- OOC: Bill Malvasi US2002021749 From dimmak42 at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 09:24:40 2009 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com (James Ruggiero) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:24:40 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Providence and the reset: Balancing Act In-Reply-To: <2fcf1c2b0903120915s48d003c1q7d35969d8ec8f1ff@mail.gmail.com> References: <49B8761A.4060009@gmail.com> <11e748a40903120733i2ad1922dl877d72a25ed047a2@mail.gmail.com> <2fcf1c2b0903120852k2dafdc14h9b984e713dfc4f02@mail.gmail.com> <2fcf1c2b0903120915s48d003c1q7d35969d8ec8f1ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Actually Gandalf would give into temptation take the ring and merge with Sauron. Then in his new found uberness would go turn Sauromon into a little female chpmunk and go date some female Ents. Jim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Jim _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail?. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 8ernallysecure at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 10:20:39 2009 From: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com (8ernallysecure at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:20:39 +0000 Subject: [CamRI] The Reset is GOOD for new players (long but specific) Message-ID: <1079648853-1236878390-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-505288321-@bxe1269.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Good afternoon, Please read this whole email thoroughly. I?ve made a bunch of points, so I won?t beat Mr. Ed, I promise. I do want to revisit the ?New player gap?. ?Yes, new players are coming in with less XP than before, but let?s look at that gap. Note that Bumps refers to the bonus XP at 1,3, 6, etc: Current: Newbie: 30xp (start) + 20xp (MC1): Total 50 Domain Avg: 30xp (start) + 100xp (MC5) + 80xp (Bumps) +200xp (Chron play): Total 410 Difference: ?360xp ? New System: Newbie: 10xp (MC1): Total 10 Domain Avg: 50xp (MC5) + 90xp (Chron play): Total 140 Difference: 130xp ? Look at that again, 360 pt difference now versus a mere 130 after the reset. Yes, mileage will vary, but that is a huge improvement for the new player in XP disparity alone But that?s not all. The MUCH more important difference is the new success system, which makes lower stats as useful in July as high stats are today. Let?s look at some builds: ? Combat Build: Old Sys: Stat + Skill + Specialization + Weapon (5+5+1+3) = Base of 14; Avg Dmg of 2-3 New Sys: Stat + Skill + Specialization + Weapon (4+3+1+3)= Base of 11: Avg Dmg 3-4 ? Skill Build: Old Sys: Stat + Skill + Specialization + Tools (5+5+1+2) = Base of 13; Avg Succ of 2-3 New Sys: Stat + Skill + Specialization + Tools (3+4+1+2)= Base of 11: Avg Succ 3-4 ? Power Build: Old Sys: Stat + Skill + Power (5+5+5) = Base of 15; Avg Succ of 3-5 New Sys: Stat + Skill + Power (3+3+3)= Base of 9: Avg Succ 3-5 Look at those numbers. Lower levels, SAME or BETTER chance for SUCCESS ? Breaking it down further, let?s look at 10-again: ? Old System The Almighty 5-5-5 Base Pool: 15 ???Pull a 5 you get 3 successes. (10,15,20) ???Pull a 10 you get 4 successes, plus a 60% chance at 5 successes (10,15,20,25 + 5 or better) New System The Respectable 3-3-3 Base Pool: 9 ???Pull a 5 you get 3 success (8,11,14) ???Pull a 10 you get 5 successes, guaranteed, with a chance of getting up to 8 successes if possible to do so. (8,11,14,17 + the second pull gets you 20-27) ? ? The numbers speak for themselves. The reset is better for new players mathematically. ??? Now let?s talk Thematics. Chrispy raised a good point about emulating the Big Guns when he joined. Answer this for yourselves, which is better?: ? 1. I come into play with a new character into a world filled with huge PCs who have done huge things that inspire me. They have faced down huge challenges and come out more powerful than ever. They also have such high pools and XP totals that I know I will never be able to match them overall unless they stop playing. ? 2. I come into play with a new character into a world filled with huge PCs who have done huge things that inspire me. They have faced down huge challenges and recently one of those challenges beat them. They are angry, focused, determined, hopeful, etc. because their power was taken from them. Like me, they know what could be and they want it. They also have high pools, not huge, but big. I can reach those pools if I play for a while. Then again, they aren?t great at everything. There?s some areas where my 1 or 2 levels of a skill will be more than anyone else in the city. It?s my first night and there?s something only I can bring to the table. I know instinct says the reset is bad, but the more I analyze it the more I realize it?s not bad at all. There?s really no bad. It will be hard to swallow, but it?s not bad. It actually makes a lot of sense. I?m looking forward to respeccing my PCs and remembering why I wanted to play them in the first place. I'm looking forward to determining which of the things on my sheet make me what I am. Most of all, I?m really excited to start writing my own story of the fall from grace. Maybe Julius loses his Contacts because he goes Paranoid and starts taking them out one by one. English pushes the bounds of reality too hard in his quest for Gnosis 7 and the universe pimp slaps his brain back 15 years for the effort. I?m not going to just count on the MST to tell me why my PC falls, that?s my story to write within their story. And that, my friends, is well worth the fall itself. ? Have A Great Day, Jonathan McDowell, Sr. Have A Great Day, Jonathan McDowell, Sr. US2002045163 From camarilla at childofchaos.com Thu Mar 12 10:16:00 2009 From: camarilla at childofchaos.com (Shuniqua Rodriguez) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:16:00 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] The Reset is GOOD for new players (long but specific) In-Reply-To: <1079648853-1236878390-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-505288321-@bxe1269.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <1079648853-1236878390-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-505288321-@bxe1269.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <49B94350.1000909@childofchaos.com> Jon, You put way too much effort into that. Thanks. =) -Shu 8ernallysecure at gmail.com wrote: > Good afternoon, > > Please read this whole email thoroughly. I?ve made a bunch of points, so I won?t beat Mr. Ed, I promise. I do want to revisit the ?New player gap?. Yes, new players are coming in with less XP than before, but let?s look at that gap. Note that Bumps refers to the bonus XP at 1,3, 6, etc: > > Current: > Newbie: 30xp (start) + 20xp (MC1): Total 50 > Domain Avg: 30xp (start) + 100xp (MC5) + 80xp (Bumps) +200xp (Chron play): Total 410 > Difference: 360xp > > New System: > Newbie: 10xp (MC1): Total 10 > Domain Avg: 50xp (MC5) + 90xp (Chron play): Total 140 > Difference: 130xp > > Look at that again, 360 pt difference now versus a mere 130 after the reset. Yes, mileage will vary, but that is a huge improvement for the new player in XP disparity alone > But that?s not all. The MUCH more important difference is the new success system, which makes lower stats as useful in July as high stats are today. Let?s look at some builds: > > Combat Build: > Old Sys: > Stat + Skill + Specialization + Weapon (5+5+1+3) = Base of 14; Avg Dmg of 2-3 > New Sys: > Stat + Skill + Specialization + Weapon (4+3+1+3)= Base of 11: Avg Dmg 3-4 > > Skill Build: > Old Sys: > Stat + Skill + Specialization + Tools (5+5+1+2) = Base of 13; Avg Succ of 2-3 > New Sys: > Stat + Skill + Specialization + Tools (3+4+1+2)= Base of 11: Avg Succ 3-4 > > Power Build: > Old Sys: > Stat + Skill + Power (5+5+5) = Base of 15; Avg Succ of 3-5 > New Sys: > Stat + Skill + Power (3+3+3)= Base of 9: Avg Succ 3-5 > > Look at those numbers. Lower levels, SAME or BETTER chance for SUCCESS > > Breaking it down further, let?s look at 10-again: > > Old System > The Almighty 5-5-5 Base Pool: 15 > Pull a 5 you get 3 successes. (10,15,20) > Pull a 10 you get 4 successes, plus a 60% chance at 5 successes (10,15,20,25 + 5 or better) > > New System > The Respectable 3-3-3 Base Pool: 9 > Pull a 5 you get 3 success (8,11,14) > Pull a 10 you get 5 successes, guaranteed, with a chance of getting up to 8 successes if possible to do so. (8,11,14,17 + the second pull gets you 20-27) > > The numbers speak for themselves. The reset is better for new players mathematically. > > Now let?s talk Thematics. Chrispy raised a good point about emulating the Big Guns when he joined. Answer this for yourselves, which is better?: > > 1. I come into play with a new character into a world filled with huge PCs who have done huge things that inspire me. They have faced down huge challenges and come out more powerful than ever. They also have such high pools and XP totals that I know I will never be able to match them overall unless they stop playing. > > > > 2. I come into play with a new character into a world filled with huge PCs who have done huge things that inspire me. They have faced down huge challenges and recently one of those challenges beat them. They are angry, focused, determined, hopeful, etc. because their power was taken from them. Like me, they know what could be and they want it. They also have high pools, not huge, but big. I can reach those pools if I play for a while. Then again, they aren?t great at everything. There?s some areas where my 1 or 2 levels of a skill will be more than anyone else in the city. It?s my first night and there?s something only I can bring to the table. > > > I know instinct says the reset is bad, but the more I analyze it the more I realize it?s not bad at all. There?s really no bad. It will be hard to swallow, but it?s not bad. It actually makes a lot of sense. I?m looking forward to respeccing my PCs and remembering why I wanted to play them in the first place. I'm looking forward to determining which of the things on my sheet make me what I am. > Most of all, I?m really excited to start writing my own story of the fall from grace. Maybe Julius loses his Contacts because he goes Paranoid and starts taking them out one by one. English pushes the bounds of reality too hard in his quest for Gnosis 7 and the universe pimp slaps his brain back 15 years for the effort. I?m not going to just count on the MST to tell me why my PC falls, that?s my story to write within their story. And that, my friends, is well worth the fall itself. > > Have A Great Day, > Jonathan McDowell, Sr. > Have A Great Day, > > Jonathan McDowell, Sr. > US2002045163 > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org > -- Shuniqua Rodriguez US2002086541 AIM: GMCAddicted Y!: maevedracorum GTalk: shuniqua.rodriguez at gmail.com ICQ: 17781119 From us2003031415 at hotmail.com Thu Mar 12 10:46:35 2009 From: us2003031415 at hotmail.com (John Tyler) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:46:35 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] The reset and You In-Reply-To: References: <149508875-1236859414-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1274551143-@bxe1052.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: Actually, from what I've heard going around, it is most likely going to be a big mysterious event, so yes the parallel is there (but of course this won't be known for sure until we hear from the MST). Also I would like to point out that I wasn't suggesting a local hard reset. I said that other domains are considering it. To be honest, I agree with Jon that this is something we should look at more as an opportunity for role play over roll play (something in which our domain has always been strong to begin with). It's never been about who gets the most toys win at least not for me, and not that I've seen from most of you. ooc: John Tyler US2003031415 RI002D From: seangreyson at hotmail.com To: camri at camarillaprovidence.org Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 09:18:26 -0400 Subject: Re: [CamRI] The reset and You Hold on Jon, I was bouncing back and forth on this issue, but now you've gone and done it. You want me to support an action that can be compared to House of M?!?!?!?!? What are you, some kind of monster? However the problem is that your example doesn't hold really. My understanding is that there isn't supposed to be a single event doing this exactly. It's coming in with a whimper rather than a bang. The other reason the example doesn't match is House of M removed 99% of the world's mutants (though strangely only a few name characters actually suffered, shocking). What is happening here is that experience is being reduced arbitrarily but we're still going to get back to the same point we were at now. Once that happens we'll be in the exact same situation. The MST's email stated that this is something to give us the opportunity to go off in a new direction with our characters. It isn't about the powers lost, it's about the fact that we're supposed to retcon everything that came before. John T's suggestion isn't a bad one. If we wanted to refresh the venue, then I say we kill off all the characters and create new ones. In fact in that case the new characters could even investigate what happened to the existing characters. But much like House of M, or One More Day, creating a situation that creates a change in the nature of a character without giving them an opportunity to correct the problem is unfair and frustrating. -Seth- ?Green light has properties totally unique in the natural world. It is the only known type of light that first registers at the point furthest from, and then travels backwards to the point of origin. It is amazing that Earth?s scientists have not yet discovered this fact, since it is plainly obvious to anyone who has sat at the back of the line of traffic when the light turned green.? -Secrets of the Universe- > To: camri at camarillaprovidence.org > From: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com > Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:04:52 +0000 > Subject: [CamRI] The reset and You > > Good Morning, > > There's really no way to reconcile the concerns we have. This issue is a mere 48 hours old, if that. And it's not happening for another three months. The fact is, a story is coming which will explain the reset ICly. Even if it's a massively obvious deus ex machina, it won't be an unexplained change. Your PC will change and everyone will know IC and OC why because they will be there with you. > A great parallel can be found in modern X-Men comics where a great mystic effect wiped out 90% of all mutants. Some characters changed, some didn't, some had to fight hard to keep being heroes without their powers or old defining traits. New stories were made and that's the key. > You do not need to, and I would argue should not, majorly change who your PC is or what they have done. What makes our PCs great is not what they can do, especially not in Awakening. It has always been how we act. Powers honestly muck things up. English leading others to euthanize prisoners, Sahara shooting offenders and taking them on with all she has, Dusk healing by hand or magic...none of that changes. Yes, your PC will say "I used to be able to rebuild nervous systems, now I can barely heal knife wounds." That's a wake-up call that PCs get to play out. Were they nothing more than magic/blood? How do they cope when that crutch is taken away? PCs like Sahara and English should be ecstatic as the Veil will be easier to maintain without the risk of phenomenal cosmic effects going off. And yet, something tells me at least one of them won't be ICly thrilled. What does that mean? How will affect them? We've played powerhouses. Now we get to play the opposite story: the death and return of Superman. I believe one line in that story read "Six hours! I used to fly cross country in six minutes!" But it's clear that he was still Superman and still had to go face the same crazy odds to be who he was and had always been. That didn't change. > > Nor will it change for us. > > Have A Great Day, > Jon > Have A Great Day, > > Jonathan McDowell, Sr. > US2002045163 > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail?. See how. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Oh and don't worry boy do I have a plan for the fall of the > Carver...mwhhahahahahahaahaaaaaa > > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org > > -- OOC: Bill Malvasi US2002021749 From 8ernallysecure at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 11:01:57 2009 From: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com (8ernallysecure at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:01:57 +0000 Subject: [CamRI] Hard Reset (was...something else, I'm not sure. I just like changing subject lines to reflect content) Message-ID: <292796710-1236881021-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1787210695-@bxe1269.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> This is why you can never use parallels with geeks... I notice you didn't comment on the Superman analogy. What's up, you some kind of fanboy? :) Appropriate comparisons or not, I have no interest in rebooting the domain. Our PCs are good together and getting better. It has nothing to do with powers or XP. We have iconic characters and I'm just now getting a chance to see them as a player, not an ST. Requiem I'm honestly not sure on, but Awakening? That venue needs to stay, I love it. I won't let go, Jack! I won't let it go! If using House of M set Seth off, I bet a Titanic reference just sent him screaming into the woods. :) HAGD, Jon Have A Great Day, Jonathan McDowell, Sr. US2002045163 From mrcorvin at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 11:08:38 2009 From: mrcorvin at gmail.com (mrcorvin) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:08:38 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Hard Reset (was...something else, I'm not sure. I just like changing subject lines to reflect content) In-Reply-To: <292796710-1236881021-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1787210695-@bxe1269.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <292796710-1236881021-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1787210695-@bxe1269.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <2fcf1c2b0903121108j47a05a41x42ac74eef089b9d4@mail.gmail.com> > If using House of M set Seth off, I bet a Titanic reference just sent him screaming into the woods. :) A 7 foot tall brazillian/irish gay pimp singing "I will always love you..." -- OOC: Bill Malvasi US2002021749 From 8ernallysecure at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 11:12:07 2009 From: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com (8ernallysecure at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:12:07 +0000 Subject: [CamRI] Killing Carver Message-ID: <798683218-1236881458-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-820509899-@bxe1244.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> I give the world an Angel and a Diamond and all I get is fear and loathing. Apparently growing that 12" fore skin took all the meat out of Ice's balls. This veiled postings on the web thing is kid's play. Perhaps I'll respec Carver into a whimpy socialite...then maybe Ice would be able to step up on him. :) HAGD, Jon Have A Great Day, Jonathan McDowell, Sr. US2002045163 From mrcorvin at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 11:12:36 2009 From: mrcorvin at gmail.com (mrcorvin) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:12:36 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Killing Carver In-Reply-To: <798683218-1236881458-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-820509899-@bxe1244.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <798683218-1236881458-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-820509899-@bxe1244.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <2fcf1c2b0903121112m46f41f45p3335b33926506dac@mail.gmail.com> Anything I say here wouldn't be something that Ice wouldn't have said to Carver's face. :) On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 2:12 PM, <8ernallysecure at gmail.com> wrote: > I give the world an Angel and a Diamond and all I get is fear and loathing. > > Apparently growing that 12" fore skin took all the meat out of Ice's balls. This veiled postings on the web thing is kid's play. Perhaps I'll respec Carver into a whimpy socialite...then maybe Ice would be able to step up on him. :) > > HAGD, > Jon > Have A Great Day, > > Jonathan McDowell, Sr. > US2002045163 > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org > -- OOC: Bill Malvasi US2002021749 From 8ernallysecure at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 11:26:38 2009 From: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com (8ernallysecure at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:26:38 +0000 Subject: [CamRI] Killing Carver Message-ID: <1930633234-1236882363-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-959673675-@bxe1071.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> O Rly? Jim, please log a DT action for: "Give my youngest childer a long overdue, tried and true, rollin' hos since 1882 *PIMP SLAP*" You get your tattooed ass to Norwich boy-o. I'ma smack you so hard your great grandsire'll be spittin blood. -Jon Have A Great Day, Jonathan McDowell, Sr. US2002045163 From us2003031415 at hotmail.com Thu Mar 12 11:29:07 2009 From: us2003031415 at hotmail.com (John Tyler) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:29:07 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Providence and the reset: Balancing Act In-Reply-To: References: <60328.72.192.19.55.1236816233.squirrel@www.camarillaprovidence.org> <49B8761A.4060009@gmail.com> Message-ID: Actually Jim, I just looked at my XP log for Sexton (who's been in play since start of Chron) and I have XP going all the way back to Nov '05 (Nov & Dec that year were character/city building meetings in which we were allowed to claim xp) with Chron having a hard start in Jan 06 (I believe I got that right). So anyone who's had a mage character in game since start should have 42 months of XP to put toward their character. I see nothing saying that times not played don't count so even Seth having disappeared for over a year can have those months on Deacon (as Deacon wasn't retired or dead) at his ST's discretion of course (Herbie that's you). ooc: John Tyler US2003031415 RI002D Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:30:11 -0400 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com To: CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org Subject: Re: [CamRI] Providence and the reset: Balancing Act Well, I understand Seth's concern with suddenly being a master and then not being a master. But lets look at it from another angle, we all made our characters at the same time June of 06. That means we as a domain are working with 108 XP + MC *10. This means no one will start with less than 118 xp in our domain. 45 xp and 6 merit dots means you can be a master and still have more than half your XP left over. Further you will have a dice pool of 10 (5 arcana, 3 Gnosis and 2 from High Speech) for casting. On average you will be pulling 3 successes on your quick casts. This is master arcanum at 2-5 successes without a rote. I have a strange feeling that we can probably play our current characters without much change in style and most likely it will be completely unoticed. In any event I am flexible and will roll with the domains decision. Jim _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Life without walls. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From silvergryphon22 at hotmail.com Thu Mar 12 11:29:44 2009 From: silvergryphon22 at hotmail.com (Nadia Ryper) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:29:44 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Killing Carver In-Reply-To: <1930633234-1236882363-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-959673675-@bxe1071.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <1930633234-1236882363-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-959673675-@bxe1071.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: LOL! Diana Ruggiero US2003061734 RI-001-D "Comfort the Disturbed and Disturb the Comfortable" > To: mrcorvin at gmail.com; camri at camarillaprovidence.org > From: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com > Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:26:38 +0000 > Subject: Re: [CamRI] Killing Carver > > O Rly? > Jim, please log a DT action for: > "Give my youngest childer a long overdue, tried and true, rollin' hos since 1882 *PIMP SLAP*" > > You get your tattooed ass to Norwich boy-o. I'ma smack you so hard your great grandsire'll be spittin blood. > > -Jon > Have A Great Day, > > Jonathan McDowell, Sr. > US2002045163 > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mrcorvin at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 11:30:09 2009 From: mrcorvin at gmail.com (mrcorvin) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:30:09 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Killing Carver In-Reply-To: <1930633234-1236882363-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-959673675-@bxe1071.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <1930633234-1236882363-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-959673675-@bxe1071.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <2fcf1c2b0903121130r2c39a023sf7c73269dfc790d3@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 2:26 PM, <8ernallysecure at gmail.com> wrote: > O Rly? > Jim, please log a DT action for: > "Give my youngest childer a long overdue, tried and true, rollin' hos since 1882 *PIMP SLAP*" > > You get your tattooed ass to Norwich boy-o. I'ma smack you so hard your great grandsire'll be spittin blood. "I'm sorry Pops, it's uncouth to roll a Carthian in a domain of another Invictus without her permission, but feel free to come up to Murderpan..." Why do I think that once or twice every year Carver and Ice just beat the shit out of each other, and that's why they generally get along? -- OOC: Bill Malvasi US2002021749 From dimmak42 at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 11:30:52 2009 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com (James Ruggiero) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:30:52 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Providence and the reset: Balancing Act In-Reply-To: References: <60328.72.192.19.55.1236816233.squirrel@www.camarillaprovidence.org> <49B8761A.4060009@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 2:29 PM, John Tyler wrote: > Actually Jim, I just looked at my XP log for Sexton (who's been in play > since start of Chron) and I have XP going all the way back to Nov '05 (Nov & > Dec that year were character/city building meetings in which we were allowed > to claim xp) with Chron having a hard start in Jan 06 (I believe I got that > right). So anyone who's had a mage character in game since start should > have 42 months of XP to put toward their character. I see nothing saying > that times not played don't count so even Seth having disappeared for over a > year can have those months on Deacon (as Deacon wasn't retired or dead) at > his ST's discretion of course (Herbie that's you). > > ooc: > John Tyler > US2003031415 > RI002D > I said at least this much XP.... Jim Ruggiero US2002023492 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From camarilla at childofchaos.com Thu Mar 12 11:20:46 2009 From: camarilla at childofchaos.com (Shuniqua Rodriguez) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:20:46 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Killing Carver In-Reply-To: <1930633234-1236882363-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-959673675-@bxe1071.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <1930633234-1236882363-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-959673675-@bxe1071.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <49B9527E.3040809@childofchaos.com> Hey hey hey! Save the smack talkin for wikis and game =P -Shu 8ernallysecure at gmail.com wrote: > O Rly? > Jim, please log a DT action for: > "Give my youngest childer a long overdue, tried and true, rollin' hos since 1882 *PIMP SLAP*" > > You get your tattooed ass to Norwich boy-o. I'ma smack you so hard your great grandsire'll be spittin blood. > > -Jon > Have A Great Day, > > Jonathan McDowell, Sr. > US2002045163 > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org > -- Shuniqua Rodriguez US2002086541 AIM: GMCAddicted Y!: maevedracorum GTalk: shuniqua.rodriguez at gmail.com ICQ: 17781119 From dimmak42 at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 11:32:07 2009 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com (James Ruggiero) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:32:07 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Killing Carver In-Reply-To: <2fcf1c2b0903121130r2c39a023sf7c73269dfc790d3@mail.gmail.com> References: <1930633234-1236882363-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-959673675-@bxe1071.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <2fcf1c2b0903121130r2c39a023sf7c73269dfc790d3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Meh, go ahead eat him, E was gonna reclaim that bit of blood soon enough. O.o!!!! J/K John. 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On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Shuniqua Rodriguez wrote: > Hey hey hey! > > Save the smack talkin for wikis and game =P > > -Shu -- OOC: Bill Malvasi US2002021749 From dimmak42 at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 11:36:50 2009 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com (James Ruggiero) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:36:50 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Killing Carver In-Reply-To: <2fcf1c2b0903121133t54fc96cen4d0b1866aeab297e@mail.gmail.com> References: <1930633234-1236882363-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-959673675-@bxe1071.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <49B9527E.3040809@childofchaos.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121133t54fc96cen4d0b1866aeab297e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: You know this is a geat time for other requiem players to come back since you will have pretty much the same XP as everyone currently playing. Jim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mrcorvin at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 11:37:47 2009 From: mrcorvin at gmail.com (mrcorvin) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:37:47 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Killing Carver In-Reply-To: References: <1930633234-1236882363-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-959673675-@bxe1071.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <49B9527E.3040809@childofchaos.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121133t54fc96cen4d0b1866aeab297e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2fcf1c2b0903121137g2920c484r8652ac96d94da6c1@mail.gmail.com> Time to make some more Carvers, that go invictus! On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 2:36 PM, James Ruggiero wrote: > You know this is a geat time for other requiem players to come back since > you will have pretty much the same XP as everyone currently playing. -- OOC: Bill Malvasi US2002021749 From camarilla at childofchaos.com Thu Mar 12 11:32:53 2009 From: camarilla at childofchaos.com (Shuniqua Rodriguez) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:32:53 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Killing Carver In-Reply-To: <2fcf1c2b0903121137g2920c484r8652ac96d94da6c1@mail.gmail.com> References: <1930633234-1236882363-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-959673675-@bxe1071.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <49B9527E.3040809@childofchaos.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121133t54fc96cen4d0b1866aeab297e@mail.gmail.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121137g2920c484r8652ac96d94da6c1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49B95555.9000707@childofchaos.com> Yeah... but aren't y'all Daevas? *shudders* -Shu mrcorvin wrote: > Time to make some more Carvers, that go invictus! > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 2:36 PM, James Ruggiero wrote: > >> You know this is a geat time for other requiem players to come back since >> you will have pretty much the same XP as everyone currently playing. >> > > -- Shuniqua Rodriguez US2002086541 AIM: GMCAddicted Y!: maevedracorum GTalk: shuniqua.rodriguez at gmail.com ICQ: 17781119 From mrcorvin at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 11:44:42 2009 From: mrcorvin at gmail.com (mrcorvin) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:44:42 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Killing Carver In-Reply-To: <49B95555.9000707@childofchaos.com> References: <1930633234-1236882363-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-959673675-@bxe1071.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <49B9527E.3040809@childofchaos.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121133t54fc96cen4d0b1866aeab297e@mail.gmail.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121137g2920c484r8652ac96d94da6c1@mail.gmail.com> <49B95555.9000707@childofchaos.com> Message-ID: <2fcf1c2b0903121144i4a731800qc27d353db23ae0ec@mail.gmail.com> That's the fo' sho'! *gives 2 snaps up and a circle* On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Shuniqua Rodriguez wrote: > Yeah... but aren't y'all Daevas? > > *shudders* -- OOC: Bill Malvasi US2002021749 From us2003031415 at hotmail.com Thu Mar 12 11:48:48 2009 From: us2003031415 at hotmail.com (John Tyler) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:48:48 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Killing Carver In-Reply-To: <2fcf1c2b0903121144i4a731800qc27d353db23ae0ec@mail.gmail.com> References: <1930633234-1236882363-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-959673675-@bxe1071.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <49B9527E.3040809@childofchaos.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121133t54fc96cen4d0b1866aeab297e@mail.gmail.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121137g2920c484r8652ac96d94da6c1@mail.gmail.com> <49B95555.9000707@childofchaos.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121144i4a731800qc27d353db23ae0ec@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: That Carver's like a disease. He just keeps spreading . . . The problem is he's apparently an STD ooc: John Tyler US2003031415 RI002D > Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:44:42 -0400 > From: mrcorvin at gmail.com > To: CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > Subject: Re: [CamRI] Killing Carver > > That's the fo' sho'! *gives 2 snaps up and a circle* > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Shuniqua Rodriguez > wrote: > > Yeah... but aren't y'all Daevas? > > > > *shudders* > > > > -- > OOC: > Bill Malvasi > US2002021749 > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? 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On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 2:48 PM, John Tyler wrote: > That Carver's like a disease.? He just keeps spreading . . .? The problem is > he's apparently an STD -- OOC: Bill Malvasi US2002021749 From silvergryphon22 at hotmail.com Thu Mar 12 12:00:39 2009 From: silvergryphon22 at hotmail.com (Nadia Ryper) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:00:39 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Ice In-Reply-To: <2fcf1c2b0903121155u26189666qd8368d5321d5192c@mail.gmail.com> References: <1930633234-1236882363-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-959673675-@bxe1071.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <49B9527E.3040809@childofchaos.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121133t54fc96cen4d0b1866aeab297e@mail.gmail.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121137g2920c484r8652ac96d94da6c1@mail.gmail.com> <49B95555.9000707@childofchaos.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121144i4a731800qc27d353db23ae0ec@mail.gmail.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121155u26189666qd8368d5321d5192c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Now Fellas... What's cooler than being cool? ICE COLD! I said what's cooler than being cool? ICE COLD! Now shake it shake it shake it Shake it like a Polaroid picture! Diana Ruggiero US2003061734 RI-001-D "Comfort the Disturbed and Disturb the Comfortable" > Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:55:08 -0400 > From: mrcorvin at gmail.com > To: CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > Subject: Re: [CamRI] Killing Carver > > Nah, Ice was due to needles. > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 2:48 PM, John Tyler wrote: > > That Carver's like a disease. He just keeps spreading . . . The problem is > > he's apparently an STD > > -- > OOC: > Bill Malvasi > US2002021749 > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? 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URL: From mrcorvin at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 12:11:54 2009 From: mrcorvin at gmail.com (mrcorvin) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:11:54 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Ice In-Reply-To: References: <1930633234-1236882363-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-959673675-@bxe1071.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <49B9527E.3040809@childofchaos.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121133t54fc96cen4d0b1866aeab297e@mail.gmail.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121137g2920c484r8652ac96d94da6c1@mail.gmail.com> <49B95555.9000707@childofchaos.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121144i4a731800qc27d353db23ae0ec@mail.gmail.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121155u26189666qd8368d5321d5192c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2fcf1c2b0903121211h16bdf958qe19966f66bd3139@mail.gmail.com> I might as well unveil this, since Diana broke out the rap... [Carver] One, two, three and to the fo' Julius Carver and Mr. Ice is at the do' Ready to make an entrance, so back on up [Ice] Cause you know we're bout to rip shit up [Carver] Gimme the microphone first, so I can bust like a gangrel Boston and Providence together, now you know you in trouble Ain't nothin' but a vamp thang, baaaaabay! Two loc'ed out daeva's so we're craaaaazay! Eluwit is the prince that paaaaays me! Unfadable, so please don't try to fade this [Ice] Hell yeah [Carver] But, uh, back to the lecture at hand Perfection is perfected, so I'm 'a let 'em understand >From a young 'nate's perspective And before me dig out a harpy I better counter with inspection You never know she could be earnin' my boons, And learnin' my boons, and at the same time burnin' my boons Now you know I ain't wit that shit, Lieutenant Ain't no pussy good enough to get burnt while I'm up in it Now that's realer than oh lord oh St. George And now all you hookas and ho's know how I gorge Well if it's good enough to get broke off a proper chunk I'll take a small piece of some of that funky stuff [Both] It's like this and like that and like this and uh It's like that and like this and like that and uh It's like this and like that and like this and uh Ice, creep to the mic like a Mekhet [Mr. Ice] Well I'm a Player', and I'm playin', and when I play in' But I damn near got stopped, 'cause my leige kept beepin' Now it's time for me to make my impression felt So sit back, relax, and strap on your seatbelt You never been on a ride like this befo' With an Invictus who can rap and control the mortals At the same time with the dope rhyme that I kick You know, and I know, I flow some ol funky shit To add to my collection, the selection Like fine lacrima is rad, but don't gag Cause If ya' do, ya' have no clue Of what me and my sire J-Carve came to do [Both] It's like this and like that and like that and uh It's like that and like this and like that and uh It's like this, [Ice] and who gives a fuck about them [Carver] So jus' chill, 'til the next next requiem (I'm working out minor snags in the other verses) On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Nadia Ryper wrote: > Now Fellas... > What's cooler than being cool? > > ICE COLD! > > I said what's cooler than being cool? > > ICE COLD! > > Now shake it shake it shake it > Shake it like a Polaroid picture! > > Diana Ruggiero > US2003061734 > RI-001-D > "Comfort the Disturbed and Disturb the Comfortable" -- OOC: Bill Malvasi US2002021749 From 8ernallysecure at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 12:16:21 2009 From: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com (8ernallysecure at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:16:21 +0000 Subject: [CamRI] Ice Message-ID: <715917960-1236885322-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1560649723-@bxe1305.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> You know, it's a shame we're losing dual covenant status. Carver deserves some Vicky props: 2 Vicky childer and Bishop turns Vic a month after Carver visits his Regency? Julius is like a freaking Invictus recruitment officer. ;) Jon Have A Great Day, Jonathan McDowell, Sr. US2002045163 From 8ernallysecure at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 12:19:06 2009 From: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com (8ernallysecure at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:19:06 +0000 Subject: [CamRI] Ice Message-ID: <639331696-1236885490-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1246938573-@bxe1003.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> O M G On the one hand: Big props On the other hand: I just found a reason to retire Carver. Lol -Jon Have A Great Day, Jonathan McDowell, Sr. US2002045163 From camarilla at childofchaos.com Thu Mar 12 12:07:37 2009 From: camarilla at childofchaos.com (Shuniqua Rodriguez) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:07:37 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Ice In-Reply-To: <2fcf1c2b0903121211h16bdf958qe19966f66bd3139@mail.gmail.com> References: <1930633234-1236882363-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-959673675-@bxe1071.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <49B9527E.3040809@childofchaos.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121133t54fc96cen4d0b1866aeab297e@mail.gmail.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121137g2920c484r8652ac96d94da6c1@mail.gmail.com> <49B95555.9000707@childofchaos.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121144i4a731800qc27d353db23ae0ec@mail.gmail.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121155u26189666qd8368d5321d5192c@mail.gmail.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121211h16bdf958qe19966f66bd3139@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49B95D79.1010309@childofchaos.com> Oh dear... -Shu mrcorvin wrote: > I might as well unveil this, since Diana broke out the rap... > > [Carver] > One, two, three and to the fo' > Julius Carver and Mr. Ice is at the do' > Ready to make an entrance, so back on up > > [Ice] > Cause you know we're bout to rip shit up > > [Carver] > Gimme the microphone first, so I can bust like a gangrel > Boston and Providence together, now you know you in trouble > > Ain't nothin' but a vamp thang, baaaaabay! > Two loc'ed out daeva's so we're craaaaazay! > Eluwit is the prince that paaaaays me! > Unfadable, so please don't try to fade this > > [Ice] > Hell yeah > > [Carver] > But, uh, back to the lecture at hand > Perfection is perfected, so I'm 'a let 'em understand > >From a young 'nate's perspective > And before me dig out a harpy I better counter with inspection > You never know she could be earnin' my boons, > And learnin' my boons, and at the same time burnin' my boons > Now you know I ain't wit that shit, Lieutenant > Ain't no pussy good enough to get burnt while I'm up in it > Now that's realer than oh lord oh St. George > And now all you hookas and ho's know how I gorge > Well if it's good enough to get broke off a proper chunk > I'll take a small piece of some of that funky stuff > > [Both] > It's like this and like that and like this and uh > It's like that and like this and like that and uh > It's like this and like that and like this and uh > Ice, creep to the mic like a Mekhet > > [Mr. Ice] > > Well I'm a Player', and I'm playin', and when I play in' > But I damn near got stopped, 'cause my leige kept beepin' > Now it's time for me to make my impression felt > So sit back, relax, and strap on your seatbelt > You never been on a ride like this befo' > With an Invictus who can rap and control the mortals > At the same time with the dope rhyme that I kick > You know, and I know, I flow some ol funky shit > To add to my collection, the selection > Like fine lacrima is rad, but don't gag > Cause If ya' do, ya' have no clue > Of what me and my sire J-Carve came to do > > [Both] > It's like this and like that and like that and uh > It's like that and like this and like that and uh > It's like this, > > [Ice] > and who gives a fuck about them > > [Carver] > So jus' chill, 'til the next next requiem > > (I'm working out minor snags in the other verses) > -- Shuniqua Rodriguez US2002086541 AIM: GMCAddicted Y!: maevedracorum GTalk: shuniqua.rodriguez at gmail.com ICQ: 17781119 From camarilla at childofchaos.com Thu Mar 12 12:08:39 2009 From: camarilla at childofchaos.com (Shuniqua Rodriguez) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:08:39 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Ice In-Reply-To: <639331696-1236885490-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1246938573-@bxe1003.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <639331696-1236885490-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1246938573-@bxe1003.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <49B95DB7.5070305@childofchaos.com> But... I *like* Carver... -Shu 8ernallysecure at gmail.com wrote: > O M G > > On the one hand: Big props > On the other hand: I just found a reason to retire Carver. Lol > > -Jon > Have A Great Day, > > Jonathan McDowell, Sr. > US2002045163 > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org > -- Shuniqua Rodriguez US2002086541 AIM: GMCAddicted Y!: maevedracorum GTalk: shuniqua.rodriguez at gmail.com ICQ: 17781119 From 8ernallysecure at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 12:25:07 2009 From: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com (8ernallysecure at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:25:07 +0000 Subject: [CamRI] Ice Message-ID: <739220761-1236885862-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-110209174-@bxe1002.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Everyone likes Carver, that's what Majesty does! -Jon Have A Great Day, Jonathan McDowell, Sr. US2002045163 From dimmak42 at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 12:24:46 2009 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com (James Ruggiero) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:24:46 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Ice In-Reply-To: <49B95DB7.5070305@childofchaos.com> References: <639331696-1236885490-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1246938573-@bxe1003.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <49B95DB7.5070305@childofchaos.com> Message-ID: "It's like this and like that and SPLORTCHES RUNNNN!" And as Carver and Ice run for their unlife they learn the true secret behind the slportches... they run the Grammies. Jim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mrcorvin at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 12:29:44 2009 From: mrcorvin at gmail.com (mrcorvin) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:29:44 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Ice In-Reply-To: References: <639331696-1236885490-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1246938573-@bxe1003.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <49B95DB7.5070305@childofchaos.com> Message-ID: <2fcf1c2b0903121229h208bff10td3bfd6ada1e389fb@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 3:24 PM, James Ruggiero wrote: > "It's like this and like that and SPLORTCHES RUNNNN!" > > And as Carver and Ice run for their unlife they learn the true secret behind > the slportches... they run the Grammies. "You think I give a damn about a Grammy? Half of you critics can't even stomach me, let alone stand me" -- OOC: Bill Malvasi US2002021749 From dimmak42 at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 12:44:49 2009 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com (James Ruggiero) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:44:49 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Ice In-Reply-To: <2fcf1c2b0903121229h208bff10td3bfd6ada1e389fb@mail.gmail.com> References: <639331696-1236885490-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1246938573-@bxe1003.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <49B95DB7.5070305@childofchaos.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121229h208bff10td3bfd6ada1e389fb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Oh they can stomach you fine... they like the flavor of you family... yes stomach you very fine. Slurp slurp. Jim On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 3:29 PM, mrcorvin wrote: > On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 3:24 PM, James Ruggiero > wrote: > > "It's like this and like that and SPLORTCHES RUNNNN!" > > > > And as Carver and Ice run for their unlife they learn the true secret > behind > > the slportches... they run the Grammies. > > "You think I give a damn about a Grammy? > Half of you critics can't even stomach me, let alone stand me" > > -- > OOC: > Bill Malvasi > US2002021749 > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mrcorvin at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 12:48:42 2009 From: mrcorvin at gmail.com (mrcorvin) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:48:42 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Ice In-Reply-To: References: <639331696-1236885490-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1246938573-@bxe1003.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <49B95DB7.5070305@childofchaos.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121229h208bff10td3bfd6ada1e389fb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2fcf1c2b0903121248i35b778a1hebc41371b3370079@mail.gmail.com> That was a quote from "The Real Slim Shady." On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 3:44 PM, James Ruggiero wrote: > Oh they can stomach you fine... they like the flavor of you family... yes > stomach you very fine. Slurp slurp. -- OOC: Bill Malvasi US2002021749 From dimmak42 at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 12:59:33 2009 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com (James Ruggiero) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:59:33 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Ice In-Reply-To: <2fcf1c2b0903121248i35b778a1hebc41371b3370079@mail.gmail.com> References: <639331696-1236885490-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1246938573-@bxe1003.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <49B95DB7.5070305@childofchaos.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121229h208bff10td3bfd6ada1e389fb@mail.gmail.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121248i35b778a1hebc41371b3370079@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: And mine was from Tremors 3.... such a bad bad movie. Jim On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 3:48 PM, mrcorvin wrote: > That was a quote from "The Real Slim Shady." > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 3:44 PM, James Ruggiero > wrote: > > Oh they can stomach you fine... they like the flavor of you family... yes > > stomach you very fine. Slurp slurp. > > -- > OOC: > Bill Malvasi > US2002021749 > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mrcorvin at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 13:01:27 2009 From: mrcorvin at gmail.com (mrcorvin) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:01:27 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Ice In-Reply-To: References: <639331696-1236885490-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1246938573-@bxe1003.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <49B95DB7.5070305@childofchaos.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121229h208bff10td3bfd6ada1e389fb@mail.gmail.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121248i35b778a1hebc41371b3370079@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2fcf1c2b0903121301t7f7e9590pe9d0b4229ea88ebf@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 3:59 PM, James Ruggiero wrote: > And mine was from Tremors 3.... such a bad bad movie. > > Jim > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 3:48 PM, mrcorvin wrote: >> >> That was a quote from "The Real Slim Shady." Bad Movie, Bad Rap Epic Win. -- OOC: Bill Malvasi US2002021749 From dimmak42 at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 13:02:42 2009 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com (James Ruggiero) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:02:42 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Ice In-Reply-To: <2fcf1c2b0903121301t7f7e9590pe9d0b4229ea88ebf@mail.gmail.com> References: <639331696-1236885490-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1246938573-@bxe1003.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <49B95DB7.5070305@childofchaos.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121229h208bff10td3bfd6ada1e389fb@mail.gmail.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121248i35b778a1hebc41371b3370079@mail.gmail.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121301t7f7e9590pe9d0b4229ea88ebf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: That's it I am totally CVing my Mage to come craft an Epic level Microphone for you two. PURPLES FOR EVERYONE! Jim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 4:02 PM, James Ruggiero wrote: > That's it I am totally CVing my Mage to come craft an Epic level Microphone > for you two. -- OOC: Bill Malvasi US2002021749 From dimmak42 at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 13:09:21 2009 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com (James Ruggiero) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:09:21 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Ice In-Reply-To: <2fcf1c2b0903121303o36b526efsa047b386b48e5d2b@mail.gmail.com> References: <639331696-1236885490-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1246938573-@bxe1003.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <49B95DB7.5070305@childofchaos.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121229h208bff10td3bfd6ada1e389fb@mail.gmail.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121248i35b778a1hebc41371b3370079@mail.gmail.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121301t7f7e9590pe9d0b4229ea88ebf@mail.gmail.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121303o36b526efsa047b386b48e5d2b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: No because, BM would bring the plans back from WoW to Galmi to portal into Requiem. Jim On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 4:03 PM, mrcorvin wrote: > Wouldn't an Epic Level Microphone be a CVing an Engineer from WoW to > Vampire? > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 4:02 PM, James Ruggiero > wrote: > > That's it I am totally CVing my Mage to come craft an Epic level > Microphone > > for you two. > > > > -- > OOC: > Bill Malvasi > US2002021749 > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Diana Ruggiero US2003061734 RI-001-D "Comfort the Disturbed and Disturb the Comfortable" Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:09:21 -0400 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com To: CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org Subject: Re: [CamRI] Ice No because, BM would bring the plans back from WoW to Galmi to portal into Requiem. Jim On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 4:03 PM, mrcorvin wrote: Wouldn't an Epic Level Microphone be a CVing an Engineer from WoW to Vampire? On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 4:02 PM, James Ruggiero wrote: > That's it I am totally CVing my Mage to come craft an Epic level Microphone > for you two. -- OOC: Bill Malvasi US2002021749 _______________________________________________ CamRI mailing list CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Contacts: Organize your contact list. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/marcusatmicrosoft.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!503D1D86EBB2B53C!2285.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_UGC_Contacts_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From uruzrune at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 13:26:04 2009 From: uruzrune at gmail.com (Alexander J Skrabut) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:26:04 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Ice In-Reply-To: References: <639331696-1236885490-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1246938573-@bxe1003.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <2fcf1c2b0903121229h208bff10td3bfd6ada1e389fb@mail.gmail.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121248i35b778a1hebc41371b3370079@mail.gmail.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121301t7f7e9590pe9d0b4229ea88ebf@mail.gmail.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121303o36b526efsa047b386b48e5d2b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8f8432d0903121326m5d1637f9uc0ae7ba22c92b50f@mail.gmail.com> You're all crackweasels. I mean that as affectionately as I can. -- Alexander J Skrabut - uruzrune at gmail.com GFM - MA-003-D US2003061708 "There are three basic types, Mr. Pizer: the wills, the won'ts, and the can'ts. The wills accomplish everything, the won'ts oppose everything, and the can'ts won't try anything." - V.I.N.CENT, The Black Hole (1979) On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Nadia Ryper wrote: > <3 my Domain. > > All the other domains are whining and being emo on the lists about the > reset, and we're ROTFL about rapping... > > YAYZ! > > Diana Ruggiero > US2003061734 > RI-001-D > "Comfort the Disturbed and Disturb the Comfortable" > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mrcorvin at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 13:29:44 2009 From: mrcorvin at gmail.com (mrcorvin) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:29:44 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Ice In-Reply-To: References: <639331696-1236885490-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1246938573-@bxe1003.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <2fcf1c2b0903121229h208bff10td3bfd6ada1e389fb@mail.gmail.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121248i35b778a1hebc41371b3370079@mail.gmail.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121301t7f7e9590pe9d0b4229ea88ebf@mail.gmail.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121303o36b526efsa047b386b48e5d2b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2fcf1c2b0903121329p46ee00dg5467ecf48eb448c@mail.gmail.com> I just prefer to be Emo in private, and LJ, and other lists. Honestly, it was this list that made me realize the route I can play the one character I seriously worried about. On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Nadia Ryper wrote: > <3 my Domain. > > All the other domains are whining and being emo on the lists about the > reset, and we're ROTFL about rapping... > > YAYZ! > > Diana Ruggiero > US2003061734 > RI-001-D > "Comfort the Disturbed and Disturb the Comfortable" -- OOC: Bill Malvasi US2002021749 From dimmak42 at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 13:35:14 2009 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com (James Ruggiero) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:35:14 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Ice In-Reply-To: <8f8432d0903121326m5d1637f9uc0ae7ba22c92b50f@mail.gmail.com> References: <639331696-1236885490-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1246938573-@bxe1003.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <2fcf1c2b0903121248i35b778a1hebc41371b3370079@mail.gmail.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121301t7f7e9590pe9d0b4229ea88ebf@mail.gmail.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121303o36b526efsa047b386b48e5d2b@mail.gmail.com> <8f8432d0903121326m5d1637f9uc0ae7ba22c92b50f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Alexander J Skrabut wrote: > You're all crackweasels. > I mean that as affectionately as I can. > > -- > Alexander J Skrabut - uruzrune at gmail.com > GFM - MA-003-D > US2003061708 > Cheezeweasels, please use your derogatory terms correctly! Dude, I think reset has such possibilities, if only to lol at work. On a side note, Alex, what does GFM stand for? Global Faq Masher? Jim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From silvergryphon22 at hotmail.com Thu Mar 12 13:36:17 2009 From: silvergryphon22 at hotmail.com (Nadia Ryper) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:36:17 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Ice In-Reply-To: <8f8432d0903121326m5d1637f9uc0ae7ba22c92b50f@mail.gmail.com> References: <639331696-1236885490-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1246938573-@bxe1003.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <2fcf1c2b0903121229h208bff10td3bfd6ada1e389fb@mail.gmail.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121248i35b778a1hebc41371b3370079@mail.gmail.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121301t7f7e9590pe9d0b4229ea88ebf@mail.gmail.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121303o36b526efsa047b386b48e5d2b@mail.gmail.com> <8f8432d0903121326m5d1637f9uc0ae7ba22c92b50f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: TY for being an affectionate curmudgeon to all of us crackweasels. It means so much! 8) <3 ^_^ Maybe there's a new sig line here for me..."Skrabut gives me LOLERSKATES!" or something... Diana Ruggiero US2003061734 RI-001-D "Comfort the Disturbed and Disturb the Comfortable" Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:26:04 -0400 From: uruzrune at gmail.com To: CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org Subject: Re: [CamRI] Ice You're all crackweasels. I mean that as affectionately as I can. -- Alexander J Skrabut - uruzrune at gmail.com GFM - MA-003-D US2003061708 "There are three basic types, Mr. Pizer: the wills, the won'ts, and the can'ts. The wills accomplish everything, the won'ts oppose everything, and the can'ts won't try anything." - V.I.N.CENT, The Black Hole (1979) On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Nadia Ryper wrote: <3 my Domain. All the other domains are whining and being emo on the lists about the reset, and we're ROTFL about rapping... YAYZ! Diana Ruggiero US2003061734 RI-001-D "Comfort the Disturbed and Disturb the Comfortable" _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail? is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mrcorvin at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 13:36:52 2009 From: mrcorvin at gmail.com (mrcorvin) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:36:52 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Ice In-Reply-To: References: <639331696-1236885490-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1246938573-@bxe1003.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <2fcf1c2b0903121248i35b778a1hebc41371b3370079@mail.gmail.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121301t7f7e9590pe9d0b4229ea88ebf@mail.gmail.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121303o36b526efsa047b386b48e5d2b@mail.gmail.com> <8f8432d0903121326m5d1637f9uc0ae7ba22c92b50f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2fcf1c2b0903121336se6b36c8wda9757928cea4403@mail.gmail.com> General Freakin Member. On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 4:35 PM, James Ruggiero wrote: > On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Alexander J Skrabut > wrote: >> >> You're all crackweasels. >> I mean that as affectionately as I can. >> -- >> Alexander J Skrabut - uruzrune at gmail.com >> GFM - MA-003-D >> US2003061708 > > > Cheezeweasels, please use your derogatory terms correctly! Dude, I think > reset has such possibilities, if only to lol at work. > > On a side note, Alex, what does GFM stand for? Global Faq Masher? > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org > > -- OOC: Bill Malvasi US2002021749 From dimmak42 at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 13:39:01 2009 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com (James Ruggiero) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:39:01 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Ice In-Reply-To: <2fcf1c2b0903121336se6b36c8wda9757928cea4403@mail.gmail.com> References: <639331696-1236885490-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1246938573-@bxe1003.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <2fcf1c2b0903121301t7f7e9590pe9d0b4229ea88ebf@mail.gmail.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121303o36b526efsa047b386b48e5d2b@mail.gmail.com> <8f8432d0903121326m5d1637f9uc0ae7ba22c92b50f@mail.gmail.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121336se6b36c8wda9757928cea4403@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Ginormous Freaking Member? Trying to challeng Carver to Male Supremacy? Jim On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 4:36 PM, mrcorvin wrote: > General Freakin Member. > > > -- > OOC: > Bill Malvasi > US2002021749 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From silvergryphon22 at hotmail.com Thu Mar 12 13:42:04 2009 From: silvergryphon22 at hotmail.com (Nadia Ryper) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:42:04 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Ice In-Reply-To: References: <639331696-1236885490-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1246938573-@bxe1003.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <2fcf1c2b0903121301t7f7e9590pe9d0b4229ea88ebf@mail.gmail.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121303o36b526efsa047b386b48e5d2b@mail.gmail.com> <8f8432d0903121326m5d1637f9uc0ae7ba22c92b50f@mail.gmail.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121336se6b36c8wda9757928cea4403@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Maybe Ice is secretly Dr. Manhattan... Diana Ruggiero US2003061734 RI-001-D "Comfort the Disturbed and Disturb the Comfortable" Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:39:01 -0400 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com To: CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org Subject: Re: [CamRI] Ice Ginormous Freaking Member? Trying to challeng Carver to Male Supremacy? Jim On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 4:36 PM, mrcorvin wrote: General Freakin Member. -- OOC: Bill Malvasi US2002021749 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail? is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 8ernallysecure at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 13:43:19 2009 From: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com (8ernallysecure at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:43:19 +0000 Subject: [CamRI] Ice Message-ID: <1994504199-1236890517-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2104091255-@bxe1278.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> I'm not the one who pulled a foot long phallus on the three old ladies. Have A Great Day, Jonathan McDowell, Sr. US2002045163 From mrcorvin at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 13:53:21 2009 From: mrcorvin at gmail.com (mrcorvin) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:53:21 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Ice In-Reply-To: References: <639331696-1236885490-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1246938573-@bxe1003.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <2fcf1c2b0903121303o36b526efsa047b386b48e5d2b@mail.gmail.com> <8f8432d0903121326m5d1637f9uc0ae7ba22c92b50f@mail.gmail.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121336se6b36c8wda9757928cea4403@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2fcf1c2b0903121353o30235cc6g73f9f17801443175@mail.gmail.com> That would be a better name ans an Invictus... On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Nadia Ryper wrote: > Maybe Ice is secretly Dr. Manhattan... > > Diana Ruggiero > US2003061734 > RI-001-D > "Comfort the Disturbed and Disturb the Comfortable" -- OOC: Bill Malvasi US2002021749 From dimmak42 at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 14:05:33 2009 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com (James Ruggiero) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:05:33 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Ice In-Reply-To: <2fcf1c2b0903121353o30235cc6g73f9f17801443175@mail.gmail.com> References: <639331696-1236885490-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1246938573-@bxe1003.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <2fcf1c2b0903121303o36b526efsa047b386b48e5d2b@mail.gmail.com> <8f8432d0903121326m5d1637f9uc0ae7ba22c92b50f@mail.gmail.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121336se6b36c8wda9757928cea4403@mail.gmail.com> <2fcf1c2b0903121353o30235cc6g73f9f17801443175@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Oh man, you need to change his Invictus name now.... I can help run a plot to turn you blue. Sadly, despite his endowment all of Mr. Manhattan was blue. Jim On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 4:53 PM, mrcorvin wrote: > That would be a better name ans an Invictus... > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Nadia Ryper > wrote: > > Maybe Ice is secretly Dr. Manhattan... > > > > Diana Ruggiero > > US2003061734 > > RI-001-D > > "Comfort the Disturbed and Disturb the Comfortable" > > > > > -- > OOC: > Bill Malvasi > US2002021749 > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vstvampire at camarillaprovidence.org Thu Mar 12 16:23:09 2009 From: vstvampire at camarillaprovidence.org (James A Ruggiero) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:23:09 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Wow that's a lot of traffic. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <133AED0E0275480F981AE8FFEDE74351@KOR1> Well, I got home today and downloaded my mailboxes and looked up to see 70 posts across the Providence list. O.o Just a random factoid of business, Jim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chrispy at camarillaprovidence.org Thu Mar 12 16:22:55 2009 From: chrispy at camarillaprovidence.org (chrispy at camarillaprovidence.org) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:22:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [CamRI] Not so sure on the math Message-ID: <60875.72.192.19.55.1236900175.squirrel@www.camarillaprovidence.org> Hey folks, I'm going to beat Mr Ed here. (Stupid talking horse) Jon, your math is well founded, but for two problems I can see. 200 chronicle xp at 10 xp per month represents 20 months of game play under the current system. Under the new system you gave the average 90 xp, which at 3 xp per month of chronicle play, represents 30 months of gsmeplay. There's a discrepancy of ten months of gameplay in your calculations between the hypothetical current and new systems. I may be wrong (math has never been my strong suit)but, I would call into question the math here. Secondly, My arguement was not with the newbie who has not played a single game in his/her/its life. I've stated that from what I can see, the people being hurt by this are those of MC 1-4 who have been playing for a year or two. In other words, the new players. As Tim pointed out, those with no monthly xp have lost nothing, it doesn't affect them as they have no monthly xp totals. As such, they stand to gain. You can't lose 70% of nothing. I am not trying to be Mr. Glass-is-half-empty, I'm just making sure my argument is clearly understood. Chrispy US2002045211 From dimmak42 at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 17:04:24 2009 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com (James Ruggiero) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:04:24 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Not so sure on the math In-Reply-To: <60875.72.192.19.55.1236900175.squirrel@www.camarillaprovidence.org> References: <60875.72.192.19.55.1236900175.squirrel@www.camarillaprovidence.org> Message-ID: Chris I am not following you arguement. MC 1 - 4 with a year of play make out really well. Note if you have a character in play for 12 months they get 36xp add in 10 to 40 xp and you have a pretty advanced character. Heck if we take your example of an MC 3 character with 2 years of play they will be coming in at 102 xp, Here's the thing, when we use the 8div3 system your starting dots only is enough to make an effective character. In truth if you played table top you start with no XP at all. Finally you don't get 3 xp per month. You get 3 xp per month *before* June 2009 in play. At June 09 you then can earn up to 8 xp per month. If you make a brand new character on July 1st 2009 and had no character previously you would get your MC * 10 in XP. So yes a brand new player making a brand new character would only get 10 xp. He or she could then earn up to 8 more that month. As true of any other member they can take a few membership tests and get to MC 3 in 1 month. If that player hustled and wanted as much XP as possible they could be MC3 in 2 months and earned 16 xp assuming they did not got to an over cap game. They would then be at 46 xp in just two months of play. Remember the point of MC is not to give you XP; it's there to encourage you to get involved. Its there to reward you for contributing to the club. Look at Tim's return coming in with a higher MC, his work for the club, founding our domain, working his but off as CC, as an ST, hosting events at his house, and I am sure other things is rewarded by the bonus he gets to apply to his characters. He is not forced to use this but is privlaged with the option of using it if so wishes. When someone new comes into the game and asks why does this person get so much more to start with, we should respond with well they have done a great deal for our club and we recognize it with Member Class and Prestige. This affords him or her with a few perks for all that work we wouldn't other wise have this game. This is why there needs to be a difference in starting XP. I feel the old difference was just too extreme. Jim US2002023492 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chrispy at camarillaprovidence.org Thu Mar 12 17:37:29 2009 From: chrispy at camarillaprovidence.org (chrispy at camarillaprovidence.org) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:37:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [CamRI] Not so sure on the math In-Reply-To: References: <60875.72.192.19.55.1236900175.squirrel@www.camarillaprovidence.org> Message-ID: <62442.72.192.19.55.1236904649.squirrel@www.camarillaprovidence.org> Here's my issue: Player A has MC 8 and 200 Chronicle Xp Player B has MC 4 and 200 Chronicle Xp Player B's monthly total was what gave his character any ability to stand alongside Player A. Does Player B still have fewer XP than A? Yes, but Player B still has enough Xp on his sheet to ensure he can still stand with the more powerful characters. Now, under the new reset, Player A is still an established character, Player B is basically a neonate. You brought up the point that the success rules have changed, but since they've changed for both player A and Player b, that point is moot. Am I saying those of lower MC should have the same amount as those who have put in their dues? No. I am saying that when the reset is done and everyone goes back to square 1, Player A walks out of it with a relatively high powered character, Player B is hit harder. Because, while both players are getting only 30% of their monthly xp they've earned to date (before June 09), Player A can at least fall back on their higher Xp totals to mitigate the hit. Player B does not get that advantage. That's my biggest problem. The reset is easier to handle if you have a higher MC, its harder to handle if you have a lower MC. The only new players that benefit from this, that I can see, are first timers. Those people who are playing for the first time, and thus have no monthly XP pool that they've built up. People with MCs that are higher will be able to fall back on their MC to soften the hit on their characters, people with lower MCs don't have that luxury. Thus the crux of my argument: the reset is easier to handle for the higher MCs, and harder to handle for the lower. Which benefits the established players, but does not benefit the newer players. And this is exactly what the Cam does not need right now. Chrispy US2002045211 From us2003031415 at hotmail.com Thu Mar 12 17:39:43 2009 From: us2003031415 at hotmail.com (John Tyler) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:39:43 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Not so sure on the math In-Reply-To: References: <60875.72.192.19.55.1236900175.squirrel@www.camarillaprovidence.org> Message-ID: Also one thing to remember Chrispy; All of us who started Mage at the beginning of Chron, have a total of 42 months in play by the time the reset goes into effect (this is going from first character/ building session in Nov '05 through until May '09). That's a total of 126 points of Chronicle xp. Not as much as before, but certainly no slouch. I was able to work out my character sheet for Sexton with him still keeping one mastery, and his first legacy attainment. That's not too shabby. Granted he lost nearly all his rotes and his Matter is back down to 2 but I can deal. And even better, those people who've been playing the same Requiem character since the start have even more. ooc: John Tyler US2003031415 RI002D Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:04:24 -0400 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com To: CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org Subject: Re: [CamRI] Not so sure on the math Chris I am not following you arguement. MC 1 - 4 with a year of play make out really well. Note if you have a character in play for 12 months they get 36xp add in 10 to 40 xp and you have a pretty advanced character. Heck if we take your example of an MC 3 character with 2 years of play they will be coming in at 102 xp, Here's the thing, when we use the 8div3 system your starting dots only is enough to make an effective character. In truth if you played table top you start with no XP at all. Finally you don't get 3 xp per month. You get 3 xp per month before June 2009 in play. At June 09 you then can earn up to 8 xp per month. If you make a brand new character on July 1st 2009 and had no character previously you would get your MC * 10 in XP. So yes a brand new player making a brand new character would only get 10 xp. He or she could then earn up to 8 more that month. As true of any other member they can take a few membership tests and get to MC 3 in 1 month. If that player hustled and wanted as much XP as possible they could be MC3 in 2 months and earned 16 xp assuming they did not got to an over cap game. They would then be at 46 xp in just two months of play. Remember the point of MC is not to give you XP; it's there to encourage you to get involved. Its there to reward you for contributing to the club. Look at Tim's return coming in with a higher MC, his work for the club, founding our domain, working his but off as CC, as an ST, hosting events at his house, and I am sure other things is rewarded by the bonus he gets to apply to his characters. He is not forced to use this but is privlaged with the option of using it if so wishes. When someone new comes into the game and asks why does this person get so much more to start with, we should respond with well they have done a great deal for our club and we recognize it with Member Class and Prestige. This affords him or her with a few perks for all that work we wouldn't other wise have this game. This is why there needs to be a difference in starting XP. I feel the old difference was just too extreme. Jim US2002023492 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail? is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 8ernallysecure at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 17:44:35 2009 From: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com (Mr. Shaz) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:44:35 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Not so sure on the math In-Reply-To: <60875.72.192.19.55.1236900175.squirrel@www.camarillaprovidence.org> References: <60875.72.192.19.55.1236900175.squirrel@www.camarillaprovidence.org> Message-ID: <49B9AC73.5040700@gmail.com> Good Evening, My math was not off, per se. I actually presumed 30 months in both cases, however the current system allows for much more flexibility in XP earning. Over the course of our chronicle, it has not always been possible to earn 10xp a month, and some people may not have earned cap each month. Ergo, in the interests of staying near average, I settled on 200xp, which is between 6 and 7 XP per month, representing one game and some DT, overcap, what have you. In fact, you are correct, if the cap was met each month or longer play time used, the numbers go up which only widens the gap. The word Average is actually a misnomer, This is more like the low mean, If we did a true average including our long-play, High MC players the disparity grows exponentially. I understand your original point and apologize for addressing it directly, I assure you the mathematical benefit to new player holds at all levels: Notes: Domain Average is MC5, 30 months of Tenure (being in play) earning 6-7xp a month Player A is MC1, 4 months of Tenure earning 10xp a month (we assume recent players take full advantage of the cap) Player B is MC2, 4 months of Tenure earning 10xp a month Player C is MC3, 4 months of Tenure earning 10xp a month Player D is MC4, 4 months of Tenure earning 10xp a month Months to close assumes the Domain Avg remains constant and the New Player earns 10xp a month in Current System, 8xp a month in the new. It is understood that the Domain Avg is not constant, this for relative comparison only Domain Avg Current Domain Avg New Player A Current Player A New Player B Current Player B New Player C Current Player C New Player D Current Player D New Tenure XP 200 90 40 12 40 12 40 12 40 12 MC XP 200 5 20 10 40 20 60 30 80 40 Bump XP 80 0 0 0 0 0 40 0 40 0 Starting XP 30 0 30 0 30 0 30 0 30 0 TOTAL XP 510 95 90 22 110 32 170 42 190 52 Difference from Domain Average N/A N/A 420 73 400 63 340 53 320 43 Months to Close Gap 42 9 40 8 34 7 32 6 Please forgive the formatting errors which I'm sure will occur. I could do a variety of charts, but the math holds across the board. There are simply more ways the experienced players have had to earn XP over their years. please note the relative time needed to close that gap. How much better for new players to know that they are only a year or less behind the biggest guns in the game, instead 3 or more years. This also does not take into account the hideous cheese which has been allowed to exist due to inconsistent approval standards and a lack of source materials. The reset fixes all that, too. Have A Great Night. Jon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 8ernallysecure at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 17:56:37 2009 From: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com (Mr. Shaz) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:56:37 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Not so sure on the math In-Reply-To: <62442.72.192.19.55.1236904649.squirrel@www.camarillaprovidence.org> References: <60875.72.192.19.55.1236900175.squirrel@www.camarillaprovidence.org> <62442.72.192.19.55.1236904649.squirrel@www.camarillaprovidence.org> Message-ID: <49B9AF45.3060207@gmail.com> Hello Again, I just realized that I misread Chrispy's argument. I should have been assuming longer time in play than 4mos. It's not a big deal. As you can see form the chart, the numbers follow a statis progression. Adding to the variables does not significantly shift or wreck the progression, just moves it along the track. If people really want another spreadsheet, I'm happy to oblige. They're fun :). The point Chris raises is one of the areas where the two sides of the coin simply will not meet. I have looked at it and decided the reset works for everyone. In fact, you are better off under the reset to have months in play over MC. 1 MC of XP = 3.3 months of XP. The general max for MC is 9, or 90xp. The max for Chronicle play will be 40 months, or 120XP. Only at MC13 or higher does MC xp beat Chron xp in the reset guidelines. Are there variations on the curves that might make out worse under the new system? Yes, but they are extremes: High MC gets boned, low play time gets boned. The reverse is not true, low MC and high play time make out just fine. Honest, I can show you all the math. Schedule a meeting date at Dunkin Donuts; I will bring flip charts. This is the problem it /seems/ like somebody should lose here. We're all getting ganked and losing power, somebody should be suffering more than others. But they're not. We're all going down together and anyone who joins up is better off now than they have been at any point since January of 2006. I was undecided about the reset. Now, I'm not. Bring me your points and I will rebutt them. IMO, the reset works and it works surprisingly well. Have A Great Night, Jon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From silvergryphon22 at hotmail.com Thu Mar 12 18:16:04 2009 From: silvergryphon22 at hotmail.com (Nadia Ryper) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:16:04 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Neonate V Elder In-Reply-To: <49B9AF45.3060207@gmail.com> References: <60875.72.192.19.55.1236900175.squirrel@www.camarillaprovidence.org> <62442.72.192.19.55.1236904649.squirrel@www.camarillaprovidence.org> <49B9AF45.3060207@gmail.com> Message-ID: When Jim was trying to rewrite Ettore and I was trying to rewrite Sabrina, we realized something... Ettore is a Second Primary character Requiem Ancilla built on Jim's MC of 10. He came into play in 2006. Sabrina is a Secondary character Requiem Neonate built on the base of MC 1. She came into play the second month of chronicle, in 2005. That extra year of play really meant a lot. Ettore at MC 10 with almost 3 years of play gets only 10 more XP than Sabrina at MC 1 with 4 and change years of play. And this, my friends, is why I am keeping Kaoniki and scrapping Sabrina. The neonate concept does not work at 130 XP. I statted her out and she was heinous. Dominate at max and Int at max, Manipulation at 4 and the supporting Dominate stats is just too powerful for 5 years embraced. Sure she didn't have much else except resources and striking looks after that, but she didn't need anything else. I may opt to take the chron xp and MC 1 to make an Ancilla Secondary. The point here is, an MC 3 or 4 player from chron start gets 30 or 40 more XP than Sabrina at MC 1. Sabrina, who after this reset could be out pwning Ettore at MC 10 with her Dominate pulls because he won't have the XP for resist stats, except she won't be because that power level doesn't fit the concept. If that doesn't illustrate how the playing field is leveled for people who have long play history and low MC, I don't know what does. Diana Ruggiero US2003061734 RI-001-D "Comfort the Disturbed and Disturb the Comfortable" Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:56:37 -0400 From: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com To: CamRI at CamarillaProvidence.org Subject: Re: [CamRI] Not so sure on the math Hello Again, I just realized that I misread Chrispy's argument. I should have been assuming longer time in play than 4mos. It's not a big deal. As you can see form the chart, the numbers follow a statis progression. Adding to the variables does not significantly shift or wreck the progression, just moves it along the track. If people really want another spreadsheet, I'm happy to oblige. They're fun :). The point Chris raises is one of the areas where the two sides of the coin simply will not meet. I have looked at it and decided the reset works for everyone. In fact, you are better off under the reset to have months in play over MC. 1 MC of XP = 3.3 months of XP. The general max for MC is 9, or 90xp. The max for Chronicle play will be 40 months, or 120XP. Only at MC13 or higher does MC xp beat Chron xp in the reset guidelines. Are there variations on the curves that might make out worse under the new system? Yes, but they are extremes: High MC gets boned, low play time gets boned. The reverse is not true, low MC and high play time make out just fine. Honest, I can show you all the math. Schedule a meeting date at Dunkin Donuts; I will bring flip charts. This is the problem it seems like somebody should lose here. We're all getting ganked and losing power, somebody should be suffering more than others. But they're not. We're all going down together and anyone who joins up is better off now than they have been at any point since January of 2006. I was undecided about the reset. Now, I'm not. Bring me your points and I will rebutt them. IMO, the reset works and it works surprisingly well. 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I also fixed the typo on the Domain Avg New column: Domain Avg Current Domain Avg New Player A Current Player A New Player B Current Player B New Player C Current Player C New Player D Current Player D New Tenure XP 200 90 200 60 200 60 200 60 200 60 MC XP 200 50 20 10 40 20 60 30 80 40 Bump XP 80 0 0 0 0 0 40 0 40 0 Starting XP 30 0 30 0 30 0 30 0 30 0 TOTAL XP 510 140 250 70 270 80 330 90 350 100 Difference from Domain Average N/A N/A 260 70 240 60 180 50 160 40 Months to Close Gap 26 9 24 8 18 7 16 5 As you can see, the gap closes substantially, but you're still making out better under the new system. In fact, if you look at Player D, they're making out better than my first chart, proving that Chron XP outweighs MC xp in the reset for all but the most extreme cases. I'd also like to look at the value of your XP spending under the 8dev3 system, using the builds I used before. All numbers presume the person min/maxed, using starting dots where ever possible,: Combat Build: Old Sys: Stat + Skill + Specialization + Weapon (5+5+1+3) = Base of 14; Avg Dmg of 2-3 XP COST: 30 Stat (25) + Skill (15) + Specialization (Free) + Weapon (Free) New Sys: Stat + Skill + Specialization + Weapon (4+3+1+3)= Base of 11: Avg Dmg 3-4 XP COST: 0 Stat (Free) + Skill (Free) + Specialization (Free) + Weapon (Free) Skill Build: Same as above, just different words. Power Build: Old Sys: Stat + Skill + Power (5+5+5) = Base of 15; Avg Succ of 3-5 XP COST: 80 Stat (25) + Skill (15) + Power (45) New Sys: Stat + Skill + Power (3+3+3)= Base of 9: Avg Succ 3-5 XP COST: 0 Stat (Free) + Skill (Free) + Power (Free) That's right. Under the new system, a starting character with 0 XP has equal stats than a character in the current system who spent XP to max their pool. And don't forget, the 10-again system is better in the new system. Have A Great Night, Jon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chrispy at camarillaprovidence.org Thu Mar 12 18:42:27 2009 From: chrispy at camarillaprovidence.org (chrispy at camarillaprovidence.org) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [CamRI] My point... In-Reply-To: <49B9AF45.3060207@gmail.com> References: <60875.72.192.19.55.1236900175.squirrel@www.camarillaprovidence.org> <62442.72.192.19.55.1236904649.squirrel@www.camarillaprovidence.org> <49B9AF45.3060207@gmail.com> Message-ID: <60066.72.192.19.55.1236908547.squirrel@www.camarillaprovidence.org> Hey all, I do not see how the newer players ever close the gap as those with higher MCs will also be playing and earning XP, as they should, and I do not see closing the gap as the point. Higher MCs have put in their dues, so the gap should not be closed. I reiterate my point. Higher MCs are able to withstand the hit a lot easier than those of lower MC because they have a higher MC pool to draw from. I have an MC 6, which means I can remake Dusk. Granted he will be stripped down, but he will remain more or less intact. Those of lower MC have worked to get their characters up to the point where they are now. Now with this soft reset, they lose 70% of the XP that got them where they are now, and have fewer Xp to keep their characters intact at all. The lower MC characters end up on the chopping block. Whether or not you agree with the soft reset is your choice and your right. You can opt to agree with it or not. I do not like the reset, and feel it does more harm than good, by creating more aggravation and friction at a time when we should be trying to encourage more participation and new membership. Perhaps not in this domain, but there are many people out there (according to recent postings on the list) who are not happy. These people are paying Cam members just like all of us. If those Cammies are angry with this, and decide to up and leave, what happens to those venues; the venues that some of us participate in? This domain may agree with the reset, and fair enough, but its not enough to simply ignore the aggravation of our fellow Cammies, because if or when they leave, venues close, and that hurts the Camarilla as an organization. We can say to ourselves, "Let them." or "It's not our decision what they decide to do." but the reason we participate in the Cam is for the larger organization. We play for the chance to play in different games with different people, and watch our characters' actions affect regional and national plots. We play and relish the opportunity to say, "My character's actions affected the plot in California. How cool is that?" If people leave the Cam, because of the reset, and venues close, those opportunities shrink. I do not feel this reset was necessary, and I think it's only going to exacerbate the problems with attendance and membership we are already having. There are a lot of hard feeling out there. We can dismiss it and call it "emo", but those feelings are important. Because those Cammies play in venues and keep them open because of it. They leave, and venues close, and that means we all lose. Chrispy From alucard_333 at yahoo.com Thu Mar 12 19:18:52 2009 From: alucard_333 at yahoo.com (Herbert Hicks) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:18:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [CamRI] Well Message-ID: <345521.86840.qm@web111510.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hi all, I've been listening to all sides of everything, ST boards, player E-mails and players themselves. There are some people dropping from the cam because of this at home and abroad but let that not bother us. To the people staying with it I hear that you all want a soft reset. If this is not correct E-mail or call me at home, most of you have my number and if you don't e-mail me back and I'll give it to you. Thank you. Your friendly neighborhood DST, Herbie US2002106772 From seangreyson at hotmail.com Thu Mar 12 20:15:28 2009 From: seangreyson at hotmail.com (Seth Dwyer-Frazier) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:15:28 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] One more time: It has nothing to do with the lost powers Message-ID: Hey Guys, I've tried to explain my issue with the soft reset as an ST several times today, but each time we seem to get bogged down in the minutia of what effect XP loss will have on a character. Let me state up front, I do not give a crap if my character loses some XP. I do not give a crap if some magic powers won't be available to me in June, what I as an ST care about is the effect on the story. Actually what I care about as a PLAYER is the effect on the story. My concern is simply this, there are two ways this can play out with the characters we currently have (and this is true of all venues): 1) The soft reset happens. The characters and history are theoretically reworked to say that these changes had been the status quo since before the venue began. These changes can include complete reworkings of the characters (which is what the MST stated). The problem with this result is that what the players accomplished in the past also needs to have changed. To use a comic book example (which still drives me nuts): Brand New Day in Amazing Spider-man. For those who do not read comics this occured when Peter and Mary Jane Parker agreed to a deal with the devil to have no one except Peter know his secret identity. As a result, all of the characters who had learned it over the years no longer knew it both the heroes and villains. The mangled continuity that this caused is still being addressed two years later and likely won't ever be completely acknowledged. After all, why would the Green Goblin kill Gwen Stacey, why would Venom NOT know Spiderman's identity (it was his costume)? What about his friends such as Daredevil and Wolverine, or any of the telepaths, why don't they know? We don't have as elaborate a continuity as Spiderman, but we have one. The soft reset forces us to simply assume we all somehow succeeded using other options. And even if we do have the XP, etc to set ourselves up as we were at the beginning of the venue what about the obvious question...what did we actually study in the last 4 years? 2) Option two is actually a worse one, and I've seen it being mentioned here as a likely way for it to play out. In option two a massive event occurs which tears these powers away from our characters (like the House of M/Decimation story arc in the Marvel Universe). On the surface it addresses the issues I've mentioned above. There's no need for continuity adjustments after all. It's an event that just happens, no biggie. With option 2 the MST becomes Grant Morrison or Brian Michael Bendis, and tells a huge world spanning story about the X-men or the Justice League facing a huge change in the nature of the world. The only problem is RI-002 isn't the X-men. Honestly we're not even X-Factor Investigations, hell we're not even the Loners (well maybe we're the Loners). If we wake up tomorrow, and the nature of magic in the world has changed every character will spend all their waking moments trying to figure out why. It will hijack every potential story. To keep the characters from trying to investigate, plot will need to be thrown at them to keep them from looking into something for which I, as the ST, can't give them answers to. In the wake of Decimation, New X-men a relatively all ages book where students at the School dealt with low end threats and soap opera drama, killed roughly 90% of the cast. Of the name characters the death toll (of high school students mind you) was 75%. The reason, well we can't keep telling these stories, because our characters are going to try and solve their classmates problems (and some of our super-powerful characters could). In option 2, the continuity changes don't matter. But it's not a matter of people pouting over lost power, it's the fact that characters will want to know why and they can't. Even worse, the established continuity will still stand and the mages and vampires of RI have enemies. Some would be impacted in a similar manner, others probably wouldn't. Established history says the spirit courts have been at odds with the mages for centuries. Why wouldn't they take advantage of a major event like this to take their revenge on the players (see New X-men above)? Of course the worst part of option 2 is that it is a mandated change from the top, with no way that local players can ever actually touch the story arc. So the biggest story of the year in the Domain, will be a story no one gets to take part in except as a victim. So where does that leave us, pretty much with an option 3 if we want to keep the venue going and don't like either of the above options: 3) A local hard reset, regardless of what everyone else does. No explanation as to why, we simply make new characters under the new rules and the players have the option of investigating why the local concillium vanished. As the ST for Mage, I consider this the best option. It opens fresh new story telling, fits the established continuity of the venue (Concilii have vanished before), and provides a reason for the new characters to begin to work together. Because I've used comic book examples throughout this piece I would compare this option to Young Avengers, the Avengers had been disbanded but there were still those who needed their help, so a young man went hunting out the next generation of heroes to help him fight the enemies the Avengers weren't there for any more. Here's some links for those who don't understand the references: One More Day: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man:_One_More_Day Brand New Day: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man:_Brand_New_Day Decimation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimation_(comics) Young Avengers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Avengers Obviously I'm open to some discussion, and it's probably something we should talk about at this month's game. This is my position however, and I would prefer the focus be on this discussion rather than one more set of XP calculations telling me why "it's not that bad." -Seth Dwyer-Frazier- VST Mage US2002023065 Green light has properties totally unique in the natural world. It is the only known type of light that first registers at the point furthest from, and then travels backwards to the point of origin. It is amazing that Earth?s scientists have not yet discovered this fact, since it is plainly obvious to anyone who has sat at the back of the line of traffic when the light turned green.? -Secrets of the Universe- _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Life without walls. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 8ernallysecure at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 20:23:20 2009 From: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com (Mr. Shaz) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:23:20 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Leaving the Cam: Why I'm not In-Reply-To: <345521.86840.qm@web111510.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <345521.86840.qm@web111510.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49B9D1A8.8010103@gmail.com> Good Evening, I just want to comment on the wave of sentiment which expresses a desire to quit the Cam because of the reset announcement. I think it's a worthwhile message to read because I was on the opposite page recently. Before the reset, I was planning to stop playing in the Cam after NERE. I was going to keep on in my OC role because I love the work I do and the people I do it with and for. However, as a player I was tired of not getting the pay off I was looking for traveling beyond my domain and felt my time was wasted being one more fish among a sea of over-powered, over-played PCs. However, I will go on record as stating that the reset is actually making me interested in my RP again. Will I miss earth-shattering power? Sure. But the thing that I think some folks are missing is the opportunity this represents. It's just like all the people who are losing money in the eal world right now. When you have money, you spend it and you think that what you buy is valuable. when you don't have money, you learn really quickly what matters in your life and what doesn't. Without the insane amounts of XP I have to remember why I wanted to play my PC in the first place. I like that I still get to play them and not lose the years I have invested into finding out who they are. Now I get to refocus away from "I need to get Power Combo X so that I can really show the region what I'm made of." The truth is, I have cheese I've never used or used solely so that I could say I used it. What kind of role-playing is that? I'm not playing my PC, I'm playing their powers. I'm not role-playing the terrible descent from Humanity to darkness, I'm trying to 'win' by getting my Morality low and not gaining Derangements. That way, I can do anything I want without having to consider other PCs or players. What kind of club member does that make me? (Those are rhetorical questions) I was a big proponent of the hard reset until I realized that what makes my PCs fun is what they've done. Take all my XP, you can never take what I've done from me. The MST's office isn't asking me to sacrifice that for the sake of balance or canon. I get to have my cake and let someone else have theirs, too. We've played powerhouses. We've "won" the game. Now we get to play the opposite story: the death and return of Superman. One line in that story read: "Six hours! I used to fly cross country in six minutes!" His powers changed, but it's clear that Superman was still Superman and still had to go face the same crazy odds to be who he was and had always been. That didn't change. Nor will it change for us. I'm still not sure how this will play out. None of us are. There's still some unknowns and months to go before it happens. To be blunt, if you jump ship now, you're doing yourself a disservice. That's your right, but I think you should at least wait until the plot kit comes out and the club settles into the new rules before making up your mind. We went through this at the NWoD reset and anyone who came through that now has 4 years of fun and memories to look back on. This time you don't even have to sacrifice the memories. Sorry for the mass post, I just hit the boards I'm on. If you think this post would be welcome on other lists, please distribute freely. If none of this matters to you, thank you for taking the time to read it anyway. Have A Great Night, Jonathan McDowell US2002045163 OoC: NE ARST CoS Requiem: Mr. Shaz; Julius Carver Awakening: English From 8ernallysecure at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 20:41:40 2009 From: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com (Mr. Shaz) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:41:40 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] One more time: It has nothing to do with the lost powers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49B9D5F4.6040507@gmail.com> Hello Again, Firstly, I want to point out that I made charts and such because I have fun doing that stuff and I was legitimately surprized with what I found. I didn't ignore other issues, I just got side-tracked on a tangent. If that offended or annoyed, I'm sorry. To clarify using Seth's list, option 2 is what will happen. What he read is correct, there is no option 1. An IC world event will occur that will cause effects that mirror what is happening OCly. Here's why I don't want a hard reset: 1. I've spent years learning who my PC is and why they do what they do; I have no desire to scrap that just because the rules change. The MST doesn't get to take away my RP just because someone else abused a rules system that was broken from the start. 2. It took us a long time to come together into the teams we are now and I see no reason to scrap that. There has been a lot of hurt, pain, and loss of bodies OC and IC to get us where we are now and that deserves to be honoured. 3. I've been a local officer for the entire chronicle and for the first time I feel like I can just play with my friends. I don't want to start a new game, I want to finally experience the game I've been running for 4 years and never really got to fully enjoy. 4. I was ready to leave the Cam before the reset announcement. A soft reset leaves me with a vested interest in playing, goals left unfinished, a hard reset does not. I don't want to make a new character and spend two more years getting them right before I can enjoy myself. 5. I have even less interest in learning how I fit in with everyone else's new PCs. It's taken two years for English to finally make a move on Sahara. Two years for him to finally step up on Dusk, the mage he came to save from addiction originally. Two years for the Perfected Adept to finally see the world's not black and white unless you make it that way, and sometimes you need to make it that way. Hell, he's on the verge of joining the Guardians for crying out loud! And now the story ends? Hell no. 6. I believe the MST staff is well aware of how PCs will react and will make a close-ended storyline that will negate the need to investigate. No mysterious Happening will occur. We'll know what happened and why we can't change it. (Although I admit this was my gravest concern when I first heard the reset plan). Seth's right, we can and will talk about this at our games. There's still a long time between then and now and much to discuss. I hope I've made sense here. Tuesday night, I was ready to quit, you can ask Melissa since she had to listen to it for three hours. But I'm looking really hard at this and I'm seeing opportunities that just don't exist in a hard reset world. And that makes me excited to play again. Have A Great Night, Jon From seangreyson at hotmail.com Thu Mar 12 21:20:43 2009 From: seangreyson at hotmail.com (Seth Dwyer-Frazier) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 00:20:43 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] One more time: It has nothing to do with the lost powers In-Reply-To: <49B9D5F4.6040507@gmail.com> References: <49B9D5F4.6040507@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hey Jon, So I'm going to try and respond to your points using my current thinking, as well as the contributions some of the other folks have mentioned to me. > Here's why I don't want a hard reset: > > 1. I've spent years learning who my PC is and why they do what they do; > I have no desire to scrap that just because the rules change. The MST > doesn't get to take away my RP just because someone else abused a rules > system that was broken from the start. 1. I don't disagree with you that this sucks as a situation. We're all in agreement here on that. However the MST has already taken away your RP, a major event is going to occur and your character isn't going to have the option of addressing it. Yes you've learned who your PC is, but if we make new ones you'll learn the same with the new PC. It sucks, but every option here sucks. > 2. It took us a long time to come together into the teams we are now and > I see no reason to scrap that. There has been a lot of hurt, pain, and > loss of bodies OC and IC to get us where we are now and that deserves to > be honoured. Yeah, this is another one of those things that blows about this. We have developed the society our characters exist within. But pretending nothing has happened, and moving on with events after the fact is just pointless. By definition a world-changing event like this would cause major changes in our social structures. It is unrealistic to expect Deacon, a mage who has made the study of pure magical energies his life (hence his focus on Prime and Spirit), to simply sit around the Providence area not trying to fix what has happened. It is unrealistic to expect the Adamantine Arrows not to go off to fight the enemy that caused this, and if they don't have an enemy to strike at it's unrealistic to expect the Mysterium and the Guardians not to go out seeking that enemy. With my option 1 we would be forced to pretend that it never happened. With my option 2, a group of Masters such as our collection of characters would go out into the world to try and fix it. We wouldn't sit home with our heads in the sand. > 3. I've been a local officer for the entire chronicle and for the first > time I feel like I can just play with my friends. I don't want to start > a new game, I want to finally experience the game I've been running for > 4 years and never really got to fully enjoy. I know the feeling. Everyone who runs a game feels that way, and over in Vampire if you guys want to run without a personal reset that's fine. Vampires would be less likely to think that they could change the world. Mages KNOW they can. New characters built on top of the existing world would be a perfectly fine option however for continuing to play with your friends. However lots of us are not going to want to play with characters that have been handicapped by MST fiat. And again, I don't mean the loss of powers, I mean the loss of ability to do anything about it. > 4. I was ready to leave the Cam before the reset announcement. A soft > reset leaves me with a vested interest in playing, goals left > unfinished, a hard reset does not. I don't want to make a new character > and spend two more years getting them right before I can enjoy myself. A lot of us have been ready to leave the Cam. Hell, I did for a year. The problem is this reset has pretty much pushed a lot of those folks out the door. Playing handicapped versions of their characters in an unrealistic manner (oh something has happened to change the nature of the world, that's nice let's go look at the flowers in the park instead) isn't going to keep them from leaving. A fresh start might be what they need. I'll be talking to some of the folks in the next couple days and we can see. Fresh characters after all, mean fresh experiences. Playing the same character for 4 years can also lead folks into a rut. However if we're going to make fresh characters we need to do it as a group, it can't be just some new and some old characters, because it still ends up leaving the same problems. > 5. I have even less interest in learning how I fit in with everyone > else's new PCs. It's taken two years for English to finally make a move > on Sahara. Two years for him to finally step up on Dusk, the mage he > came to save from addiction originally. Two years for the Perfected > Adept to finally see the world's not black and white unless you make it > that way, and sometimes you need to make it that way. Hell, he's on the > verge of joining the Guardians for crying out loud! And now the story > ends? Hell no. Honestly Jon, as I've said, those stories are already done. They ended the instant this reset was announced. The status quo doesn't work with the reset, people won't stay if all they get is status quo minus the last 4 years of development (and this time I am referring to powers and abilities for a moment). Not being allowed to try and fix the problems we face but continuing on as if the local pattern hasn't changed. It's unrealistic. > 6. I believe the MST staff is well aware of how PCs will react and will > make a close-ended storyline that will negate the need to investigate. > No mysterious Happening will occur. We'll know what happened and why we > can't change it. (Although I admit this was my gravest concern when I > first heard the reset plan). I don't believe that Jon. Early this morning the plan was to have an Option 1 reset, the MST said it herself. After the hue and the cry went up, she changed it around to an option 2 reset apparently. Four years ago, Gehenna was generally poorly run and badly handled. However at least it was planned out well in advance. The seeds for Gehenna were laid out more than a year ahead of time, and the announcement gave every domain the chance to prepare. Here we're recieving 3 months notice, and the plan still isn't really in place. Moreover it still doesn't address the main concern, we don't get to take part in the story. It's MST fiat, and the only way I believe it can be made interesting for Mage is to have the story be the start of a fresh new campaign. > Seth's right, we can and will talk about this at our games. There's > still a long time between then and now and much to discuss. I hope I've > made sense here. Tuesday night, I was ready to quit, you can ask Melissa > since she had to listen to it for three hours. But I'm looking really > hard at this and I'm seeing opportunities that just don't exist in a > hard reset world. And that makes me excited to play again. I hope we do have a chance to talk about it at game, but short of coming to an agreement of some sort ahead of time I don't think we'll be able to bring everyone back to the table to talk about it. Seth Dwyer-Frazier VST Mage US20023065 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail? is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 8ernallysecure at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 22:36:11 2009 From: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com (Mr. Shaz) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 01:36:11 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Let's talk about Awakening In-Reply-To: References: <49B9D5F4.6040507@gmail.com> Message-ID: <49B9F0CB.1090304@gmail.com> Good Evening, Simply put, if you think something is going to fail, it will. If you think it could work, it darn well might. The impression is being made that a group of players is ready to leave and will only consider staying if a hard reset is done. If I'm wrong, I gladly apologize to one and all. If I'm not, I would very much like to hear one of those players speak to the reasons why they think a hard reset will make the situation bearable when a soft reset will not. Is it necessary also for the entire venue to hard reset for those players to remain? Many club members are taking this opportunity to make new PCs, but not all. If I decide to keep English, am I basically forcing the venue closed? If half of us want to reset and half don't (which seems to be the case), what effect will this have? Example: If Galmi and English stay on and a wave of fresh PCs come in, I can guarantee they will not hear word one of the global boogey-woogey from us, so there's no reason they would need to go hunt it down. They can pursue a new Consilium to their hearts content, with two ready soldiers waiting to serve. Is that something people would play? Or would the fact that Galmi and English OCly have more XP on their sheets cause too much friction to work? Flip side from those who oppose/resist a hard reset: would you be willing to make a new PC? If not, why not? Let's be honest and direct here, folks, there's no reason to use vaguaries and maybes. Seth, you obviously have a grasp of what certain people are feeling which has not been posted otherwise. If some people cannot or do not wish to post, that's fine, I hope that you may speak on their behalf as the VST. Let's talk specifics for our local game. Who wants to leave because of the soft reset? What situations are they willing to explore and why? * We are NOT on opposite sides here. None of us LIKE the way reset is happening. We all want to play. We just need to hash out what everyone wants out of the game and how we're going to make that happen. Have A Great Morning, Jon * TANGENT: For a really specific challenge: What ideas will a hard reset venue bring that I may want to pursue that the soft reset would not allow? I admit I'm a hard sell, but that's only because I honestly can't think of anything I'd rather play in our venue than English; he's my favorite PC in any Cam game. Actually, that spreads beyond the Cam. I actually made a WoW version of English and play it as if English were playing WoW. (Yes, Jenn, Jim, Diana, Peter, that was me the whole time, as you suspected.) I say all this just to underscore that I oppose the hard reset not because of my deep love for the Cam or the soft reset, it's pretty much because I love English and what he has become. P.S.- I would also point out that there's still 3 months until the reset regardless, so let's not go dealing ourselves out when there's still a few games left in the current system. I recall something about a skull? Perhaps Indiana Jones will be visiting us? From johngrant529 at gmail.com Fri Mar 13 03:30:32 2009 From: johngrant529 at gmail.com (John Grant) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 06:30:32 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Providence and the reset In-Reply-To: <2fcf1c2b0903120802q2bb58754oecc6a04da35c9c23@mail.gmail.com> References: <225183.46375.qm@web111508.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <49B8FF81.6070402@childofchaos.com> <2fcf1c2b0903120802q2bb58754oecc6a04da35c9c23@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: It is hard. I wonder how my pimp is going to make out after the reset. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 12, 2009, at 11:02 AM, mrcorvin wrote: > Like Mother like son, cause it's hard out here for a pimp. > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 10:54 AM, James Ruggiero > wrote: >> Nora is the crazy mortal went mage... remember Gralic fest Shu? > > -- > OOC: > Bill Malvasi > US2002021749 > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org From silvergryphon22 at hotmail.com Fri Mar 13 04:40:58 2009 From: silvergryphon22 at hotmail.com (Nadia Ryper) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 07:40:58 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Let's talk about Awakening In-Reply-To: <49B9F0CB.1090304@gmail.com> References: <49B9D5F4.6040507@gmail.com> <49B9F0CB.1090304@gmail.com> Message-ID: So far as I know, most Domains are seeing some people keep characters and some people make new ones. I did not go through all the time and effort to convert a Mortals character to Mage just to stop playing her because of MST fiat. I already opted to keep Nora even with the last MST fiat that removed Mortals from our chronicle. Like Jon, I want to keep on playing Nora because I love that character. If I'd had any idea that I would be forced to stop playing her by switching her to Mage in Providence, I would have moved her somewhere else. I am very upset that my fellow players in the mage venue are so vehemently against allowing other players to keep their characters if they want to. I wouldn't dream of telling any of you whether or not to play a character under any circumstance. I think this whole idea that either all of us or none of us absolutely must make a new character is mean and selfish. I don't like having the VSS impose a rule like this in retaliation for Global actually giving us a choice in the matter. If some people think their character concepts are not playable after the reset, I don't want to tell them they can't make a new character. But, I also don't want to be told I can't play my character concept after the reset if I think it will work. This is probably the most unfair idea I can think of in response to global's already unpopular idea. Also, the rules state that any new character you make will have the same XP that your old character would have had if you made him or her again as reset compliant. There would be no cases of new characters having no chron XP while kept characters get the 3XP times months in play plus MC. I don't think there should be a vote on this. I don't think there should be an all-or-nothing change forced on us at the VSS level. We already have enough being forced already. What next? Would the VSS benefit from a proposal also to only have one Order in play after the reset? Are half the players going to insist on something like that next, and make a similar demand for another all-or-nothing vote about it? Diana Ruggiero US2003061734 RI-001-D "Comfort the Disturbed and Disturb the Comfortable" > Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 01:36:11 -0400 > From: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com > To: CamRI at CamarillaProvidence.org > Subject: [CamRI] Let's talk about Awakening > > Good Evening, > > Simply put, if you think something is going to fail, it will. If you > think it could work, it darn well might. > > The impression is being made that a group of players is ready to > leave and will only consider staying if a hard reset is done. If I'm > wrong, I gladly apologize to one and all. If I'm not, I would very much > like to hear one of those players speak to the reasons why they think a > hard reset will make the situation bearable when a soft reset will not. > Is it necessary also for the entire venue to hard reset for those > players to remain? Many club members are taking this opportunity to make > new PCs, but not all. If I decide to keep English, am I basically > forcing the venue closed? If half of us want to reset and half don't > (which seems to be the case), what effect will this have? > Example: If Galmi and English stay on and a wave of fresh PCs come > in, I can guarantee they will not hear word one of the global > boogey-woogey from us, so there's no reason they would need to go hunt > it down. They can pursue a new Consilium to their hearts content, with > two ready soldiers waiting to serve. Is that something people would > play? Or would the fact that Galmi and English OCly have more XP on > their sheets cause too much friction to work? > Flip side from those who oppose/resist a hard reset: would you be > willing to make a new PC? If not, why not? > > Let's be honest and direct here, folks, there's no reason to use > vaguaries and maybes. Seth, you obviously have a grasp of what certain > people are feeling which has not been posted otherwise. If some people > cannot or do not wish to post, that's fine, I hope that you may speak on > their behalf as the VST. Let's talk specifics for our local game. Who > wants to leave because of the soft reset? What situations are they > willing to explore and why? * > > We are NOT on opposite sides here. None of us LIKE the way reset is > happening. We all want to play. We just need to hash out what everyone > wants out of the game and how we're going to make that happen. > > Have A Great Morning, > Jon > > > * TANGENT: For a really specific challenge: What ideas will a hard reset > venue bring that I may want to pursue that the soft reset would not > allow? I admit I'm a hard sell, but that's only because I honestly can't > think of anything I'd rather play in our venue than English; he's my > favorite PC in any Cam game. Actually, that spreads beyond the Cam. I > actually made a WoW version of English and play it as if English were > playing WoW. (Yes, Jenn, Jim, Diana, Peter, that was me the whole time, > as you suspected.) I say all this just to underscore that I oppose the > hard reset not because of my deep love for the Cam or the soft reset, > it's pretty much because I love English and what he has become. > > P.S.- I would also point out that there's still 3 months until the reset > regardless, so let's not go dealing ourselves out when there's still a > few games left in the current system. I recall something about a skull? > Perhaps Indiana Jones will be visiting us? > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Contacts: Organize your contact list. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/marcusatmicrosoft.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!503D1D86EBB2B53C!2285.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_UGC_Contacts_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mrcorvin at gmail.com Fri Mar 13 04:51:50 2009 From: mrcorvin at gmail.com (mrcorvin) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 07:51:50 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Providence and the reset In-Reply-To: References: <225183.46375.qm@web111508.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <49B8FF81.6070402@childofchaos.com> <2fcf1c2b0903120802q2bb58754oecc6a04da35c9c23@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2fcf1c2b0903130451s6e631f89t939cc26d8788acb8@mail.gmail.com> My pimp will be perfectly fine. On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 6:30 AM, John Grant wrote: > It is hard. I wonder how my pimp is going to make out after the reset. >>> >>> Nora is the crazy mortal went mage... remember Gralic fest Shu? -- OOC: Bill Malvasi US2002021749 From mrcorvin at gmail.com Fri Mar 13 05:06:46 2009 From: mrcorvin at gmail.com (mrcorvin) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 08:06:46 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Let's talk about Awakening In-Reply-To: References: <49B9D5F4.6040507@gmail.com> <49B9F0CB.1090304@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2fcf1c2b0903130506i55446cd7h2f13e520152c157c@mail.gmail.com> >From an out of town perspective, I would agree that no one should be forced into an all or nothing. I would suggest for those that want to retire there characters for something new, talk to the VST for an ending to work on closing out ties with other people. This has actually breathed a bit of new life into me for Mage, so it would be sad if everyone from Providence magically disappeared, and other people from outside the city came in thinking the new characters took over by force and then proceeded to start a war or something. -- OOC: Bill Malvasi US2002021749 From dimmak42 at gmail.com Fri Mar 13 07:00:02 2009 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com (James Ruggiero) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:00:02 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Providence and the reset In-Reply-To: References: <225183.46375.qm@web111508.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <49B8FF81.6070402@childofchaos.com> <2fcf1c2b0903120802q2bb58754oecc6a04da35c9c23@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Well the pimp might get a little weaker but Wanda get's an upgrade. Wanda 2.0!!! Jim On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 6:30 AM, John Grant wrote: > It is hard. I wonder how my pimp is going to make out after the reset. > > Sent from my iPhone > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mrcorvin at gmail.com Fri Mar 13 07:02:50 2009 From: mrcorvin at gmail.com (mrcorvin) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:02:50 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Providence and the reset In-Reply-To: References: <225183.46375.qm@web111508.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <49B8FF81.6070402@childofchaos.com> <2fcf1c2b0903120802q2bb58754oecc6a04da35c9c23@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2fcf1c2b0903130702j626db804x155d4e32242eb09d@mail.gmail.com> Man, my 2 "retainers" for fat Eddie are equivalents of MC 3's now...and that doesn't include my "staff" On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 10:00 AM, James Ruggiero wrote: > Well the pimp might get a little weaker but Wanda get's an upgrade. > Wanda 2.0!!! > > Jim > > On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 6:30 AM, John Grant wrote: >> >> It is hard. I wonder how my pimp is going to make out after the reset. >> >> Sent from my iPhone > > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org > > -- OOC: Bill Malvasi US2002021749 From 8ernallysecure at gmail.com Fri Mar 13 07:04:25 2009 From: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com (8ernallysecure at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:04:25 +0000 Subject: [CamRI] Awakening Convo Message-ID: <1974076829-1236952991-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-220344489-@bxe1045.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Good Morning, Clearly this issue is hitting all of us hard. I would ask that people only discuss their perspective and refrain from second-guessing what others want. No one has aid "It's hard reset or nothing". The whole point of my email last night was asking people IF that was the case. It was not meant to be hostile. This is a valuable conversation and we must keep it open-minded or it becomes an argument. As I said, there is much left unsaid. No one has laid down ultimatums except Global, we needn't start now. Let's clarify where we all stand before we react to what may or may not be. Thank you everyone, Jonathan Have A Great Day, Jonathan McDowell, Sr. US2002045163 From dimmak42 at gmail.com Fri Mar 13 07:03:30 2009 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com (James Ruggiero) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:03:30 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] What we want. Message-ID: Mr. Hicks has asked what we want. So all arguments aside this is what I want: Requiem: I want to continue playing Elauwit and I want continuity to stay. Mage: I prefer to play Galmi and maintain continuity. Domain level: I want to see some cross venue and feel like I am playing a world of darkness. Jim Ruggiero US2002023492 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Although, I'm more open to making a new vamp than I am a mage. Also, I would prefer to play Elauwit and Galmi. :) Jon Have A Great Day, Jonathan McDowell, Sr. US2002045163 From us2003031415 at hotmail.com Fri Mar 13 11:23:25 2009 From: us2003031415 at hotmail.com (John Tyler) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:23:25 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] What I want, what do you want? In-Reply-To: <1387118118-1236955311-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1933915611-@bxe1304.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <1387118118-1236955311-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1933915611-@bxe1304.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: I'll third that. While they may be significantly reduced, I'm far from seeing this as the end for any of my characters (and remember I play 2 other venues out of domain besides Mage and Requiem). I on the other hand think that Jim is welcome to Elauwit and Galmi. They scare me too much to play them. ooc: John Tyler US2003031415 RI002D > To: camri at camarillaprovidence.org > From: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com > Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:42:38 +0000 > Subject: Re: [CamRI] What I want, what do you want? > > Good morning, > > I echo Jim's sentiments, pretty much to the tee. Although, I'm more open to making a new vamp than I am a mage. > Also, I would prefer to play Elauwit and Galmi. > > :) > > Jon > Have A Great Day, > > Jonathan McDowell, Sr. > US2002045163 > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! 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After > the hue and the cry went up, she changed it around to an option 2 reset apparently. > Four years ago, Gehenna was generally poorly run and badly handled. However at least it > was planned out well in advance. The seeds for Gehenna were laid out more than a year > ahead of time, and the announcement gave every domain the chance to prepare. Here > we're recieving 3 months notice, and the plan still isn't really in place. Moreover it still > doesn't address the main concern, we don't get to take part in the story. It's MST fiat, > and the only way I believe it can be made interesting for Mage is to have the story be > the start of a fresh new campaign. ooc: John Tyler US2003031415 RI002D _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sort of like if a new PC came in to take up the mantle of an old PC. *cough* shaz *cough* Let's just hope your broodmates can all settle on a pronunciation of the title that doesn't illicit a chorus of "Bless you"s and handkerchiefs. :) Have A Great Day, Jonathan McDowell, Sr. US2002045163 From silentben37 at hotmail.com Sat Mar 14 07:40:16 2009 From: silentben37 at hotmail.com (Tim Brosnan) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 14:40:16 +0000 Subject: [CamRI] One more time: It has nothing to do with the lost powers In-Reply-To: References: <49B9D5F4.6040507@gmail.com> Message-ID: This confusion brings up a good question. I believe I saw an email from Ms. Webb stating that xp earned after the reset must first be applied to what your character had pre reset. Did I miss read? Was this correct? Did it change? Tim Brosnan Us2009023655 From: us2003031415 at hotmail.com To: camri at camarillaprovidence.org Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:28:18 -0400 Subject: Re: [CamRI] One more time: It has nothing to do with the lost powers Seth, I was just wondering where you heard this. As far as I've seen from the start it was announced that there would be continuity with a storyline to explain it. Maybe you're on a list that I'm not on. Not challenging you, just wondering. > Early this morning the plan was to have an Option 1 reset, the MST said it herself. After > the hue and the cry went up, she changed it around to an option 2 reset apparently. > Four years ago, Gehenna was generally poorly run and badly handled. However at least it > was planned out well in advance. The seeds for Gehenna were laid out more than a year > ahead of time, and the announcement gave every domain the chance to prepare. Here > we're recieving 3 months notice, and the plan still isn't really in place. Moreover it still > doesn't address the main concern, we don't get to take part in the story. It's MST fiat, > and the only way I believe it can be made interesting for Mage is to have the story be > the start of a fresh new campaign. ooc: John Tyler US2003031415 RI002D Windows Live? Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. Check it out. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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To everyone, those decided in either direction those undecided, those wearing purple bunny slippers, etc. Come to your next venue game. Discuss. If you find yourself upset with the current situation - take a break. We have until June before things happen. Take a few months off. Come back once we know what is going on, then decide. Take it from me, sometimes we need breaks from the Cam. Things we don't know: The form the reset plot will take (all we have are some guesses and the faintest knowledge that there will be an explination plot) How the plot will affect NPCs, NPCs goals, NPCs plans. How we will want to take our characters once we see the plot. I was here for the Red Star plot. It sucked, I felt uninvolved, I still don't know that anything came of it. I felt local VSTs were horribly uninformed. And you had to go to Cons to do anything worth a crap. Then again I did not involve my characters, may even have put effort into avoiding the plot. As an ST I did not encourage my players to investigate. Perhaps my views would have been different if I gave the plot a chance and got involved. We all hate railroad predestine plots, but sometimes they happen and sometimes they can be good. Am I skeptical that the MST staff will pull off a good plot? yes. Honestly I have little faith in the upper reaching ST staff, but that is no reason to railroad them by flattly deny their attempts. Let's give this a chance to develop before we hastily make decisions. Tim Brosnan US2009023655 From: us2003031415 at hotmail.com To: camri at camarillaprovidence.org Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:28:18 -0400 Subject: Re: [CamRI] One more time: It has nothing to do with the lost powers Seth, I was just wondering where you heard this. As far as I've seen from the start it was announced that there would be continuity with a storyline to explain it. Maybe you're on a list that I'm not on. Not challenging you, just wondering. > Early this morning the plan was to have an Option 1 reset, the MST said it herself. After > the hue and the cry went up, she changed it around to an option 2 reset apparently. > Four years ago, Gehenna was generally poorly run and badly handled. However at least it > was planned out well in advance. The seeds for Gehenna were laid out more than a year > ahead of time, and the announcement gave every domain the chance to prepare. Here > we're recieving 3 months notice, and the plan still isn't really in place. Moreover it still > doesn't address the main concern, we don't get to take part in the story. It's MST fiat, > and the only way I believe it can be made interesting for Mage is to have the story be > the start of a fresh new campaign. ooc: John Tyler US2003031415 RI002D Windows Live? Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. Check it out. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Contacts: Organize your contact list. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/marcusatmicrosoft.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!503D1D86EBB2B53C!2285.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_UGC_Contacts_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jlalumiere at nycap.rr.com Sat Mar 14 09:15:53 2009 From: jlalumiere at nycap.rr.com (jlalumiere at nycap.rr.com) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 12:15:53 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Norwich trip In-Reply-To: <1999082193-1237041928-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1854679391-@bxe1099.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <20090314161553.1BEUU.394435.root@cdptpa-web18-z02> ooooooo! Mr Carver visiting us? teeee...heeeee....heee.. :-) Will he rap for us in Norwich tonight? Has he done a rap in Norwich? I'd love to see the look on Kadar's face with one of Carver's raps going down live at the game on elsyium grounds :-) I think it would be really funny! -- Dana Lajeunesse US2002022002 Plays IC : Lady Adara Lordani Master of Elysium of Norwich CT Valued in Norwich CT Recognized amongst The Invictus Acknowledged amongst The Deava ---- 8ernallysecure at gmail.com wrote: > Good Morning, > > I will likely be heading down to Norwich tonight and have room for one more. Only caveat is I have no sitter, ergo I'm bringing the kids so no cursing in the car or I kick you out on the side of 395. > > Have A Great Day, > > Jonathan McDowell, Sr. > US2002045163 > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org From jlalumiere at nycap.rr.com Sat Mar 14 09:25:00 2009 From: jlalumiere at nycap.rr.com (jlalumiere at nycap.rr.com) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 12:25:00 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Musing and ramblings of a senile old man In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090314162500.R67Z4.394516.root@cdptpa-web18-z02> Hi Tim! :-) Remember me? :-) If you are senile, what does that make me? I've been in the cam since 1992. (does the math) ...dang...16 years??? I think I just scared myself...:-) -- Dana Lajeunesse US2002022002 Plays IC : Lady Adara Lordani Master of Elysium of Norwich CT Valued in Norwich CT Recognized amongst The Invictus Acknowledged amongst The Deava ---- Tim Brosnan wrote: > > Another thought. To everyone, those decided in either direction those undecided, those wearing purple bunny slippers, etc. > > Come to your next venue game. Discuss. If you find yourself upset with the current situation - take a break. We have until June before things happen. Take a few months off. Come back once we know what is going on, then decide. Take it from me, sometimes we need breaks from the Cam. > > Things we don't know: > > The form the reset plot will take (all we have are some guesses and the faintest knowledge that there will be an explination plot) > > How the plot will affect NPCs, NPCs goals, NPCs plans. > > How we will want to take our characters once we see the plot. > > > > I was here for the Red Star plot. It sucked, I felt uninvolved, I still don't know that anything came of it. I felt local VSTs were horribly uninformed. And you had to go to Cons to do anything worth a crap. > > Then again I did not involve my characters, may even have put effort into avoiding the plot. As an ST I did not encourage my players to investigate. Perhaps my views would have been different if I gave the plot a chance and got involved. > > We all hate railroad predestine plots, but sometimes they happen and sometimes they can be good. Am I skeptical that the MST staff will pull off a good plot? yes. Honestly I have little faith in the upper reaching ST staff, but that is no reason to railroad them by flattly deny their attempts. > > Let's give this a chance to develop before we hastily make decisions. > > Tim Brosnan > US2009023655 > > > From: us2003031415 at hotmail.com > To: camri at camarillaprovidence.org > Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:28:18 -0400 > Subject: Re: [CamRI] One more time: It has nothing to do with the lost powers > > > > > > > > > Seth, I was just wondering where you heard this. As far as I've seen from the start it was announced that there would be continuity with a storyline to explain it. Maybe you're on a list that I'm not on. Not challenging you, just wondering. > > > > Early this morning the plan was to have an Option 1 reset, the MST > said it herself. After > > the hue and the cry went up, she changed it > around to an option 2 reset apparently. > > Four years ago, Gehenna was > generally poorly run and badly handled. However at least it > > was > planned out well in advance. The seeds for Gehenna were laid out more > than a year > > ahead of time, and the announcement gave every domain the > chance to prepare. Here > > we're recieving 3 months notice, and the plan > still isn't really in place. Moreover it still > > doesn't address the > main concern, we don't get to take part in the story. It's MST fiat, > > > and the only way I believe it can be made interesting for Mage is to > have the story be > > the start of a fresh new campaign. > > ooc: > John Tyler > US2003031415 > RI002D > > > > > > > > > > Windows Live? Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. Check it out. > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live? Contacts: Organize your contact list. > http://windowslive.com/connect/post/marcusatmicrosoft.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!503D1D86EBB2B53C!2285.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_UGC_Contacts_032009 From jlalumiere at nycap.rr.com Sat Mar 14 09:25:15 2009 From: jlalumiere at nycap.rr.com (jlalumiere at nycap.rr.com) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 16:25:15 +0000 Subject: [CamRI] Musing and ramblings of a senile old man In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090314162515.W8NCV.394517.root@cdptpa-web18-z02> Hi Tim! :-) Remember me? :-) If you are senile, what does that make me? I've been in the cam since 1992. (does the math) ...dang...16 years??? I think I just scared myself...:-) -- Dana Lajeunesse US2002022002 Plays IC : Lady Adara Lordani Master of Elysium of Norwich CT Valued in Norwich CT Recognized amongst The Invictus Acknowledged amongst The Deava ---- Tim Brosnan wrote: > > Another thought. To everyone, those decided in either direction those undecided, those wearing purple bunny slippers, etc. > > Come to your next venue game. Discuss. If you find yourself upset with the current situation - take a break. We have until June before things happen. Take a few months off. Come back once we know what is going on, then decide. Take it from me, sometimes we need breaks from the Cam. > > Things we don't know: > > The form the reset plot will take (all we have are some guesses and the faintest knowledge that there will be an explination plot) > > How the plot will affect NPCs, NPCs goals, NPCs plans. > > How we will want to take our characters once we see the plot. > > > > I was here for the Red Star plot. It sucked, I felt uninvolved, I still don't know that anything came of it. I felt local VSTs were horribly uninformed. And you had to go to Cons to do anything worth a crap. > > Then again I did not involve my characters, may even have put effort into avoiding the plot. As an ST I did not encourage my players to investigate. Perhaps my views would have been different if I gave the plot a chance and got involved. > > We all hate railroad predestine plots, but sometimes they happen and sometimes they can be good. Am I skeptical that the MST staff will pull off a good plot? yes. Honestly I have little faith in the upper reaching ST staff, but that is no reason to railroad them by flattly deny their attempts. > > Let's give this a chance to develop before we hastily make decisions. > > Tim Brosnan > US2009023655 > > > From: us2003031415 at hotmail.com > To: camri at camarillaprovidence.org > Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:28:18 -0400 > Subject: Re: [CamRI] One more time: It has nothing to do with the lost powers > > > > > > > > > Seth, I was just wondering where you heard this. As far as I've seen from the start it was announced that there would be continuity with a storyline to explain it. Maybe you're on a list that I'm not on. Not challenging you, just wondering. > > > > Early this morning the plan was to have an Option 1 reset, the MST > said it herself. After > > the hue and the cry went up, she changed it > around to an option 2 reset apparently. > > Four years ago, Gehenna was > generally poorly run and badly handled. However at least it > > was > planned out well in advance. The seeds for Gehenna were laid out more > than a year > > ahead of time, and the announcement gave every domain the > chance to prepare. Here > > we're recieving 3 months notice, and the plan > still isn't really in place. Moreover it still > > doesn't address the > main concern, we don't get to take part in the story. It's MST fiat, > > > and the only way I believe it can be made interesting for Mage is to > have the story be > > the start of a fresh new campaign. > > ooc: > John Tyler > US2003031415 > RI002D > > > > > > > > > > Windows Live? Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. Check it out. > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live? Contacts: Organize your contact list. > http://windowslive.com/connect/post/marcusatmicrosoft.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!503D1D86EBB2B53C!2285.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_UGC_Contacts_032009 From us2003031415 at hotmail.com Sat Mar 14 10:39:52 2009 From: us2003031415 at hotmail.com (John Tyler) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:39:52 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Norwich trip In-Reply-To: <1999082193-1237041928-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1854679391-@bxe1099.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <1999082193-1237041928-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1854679391-@bxe1099.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: Hey Jon, if I'm not too late, could I tag along? ooc: John Tyler US2003031415 RI002D > To: camri at camarillaprovidence.org > From: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com > Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 14:46:28 +0000 > Subject: [CamRI] Norwich trip > > Good Morning, > > I will likely be heading down to Norwich tonight and have room for one more. Only caveat is I have no sitter, ergo I'm bringing the kids so no cursing in the car or I kick you out on the side of 395. > > Have A Great Day, > > Jonathan McDowell, Sr. > US2002045163 > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail? is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dimmak42 at gmail.com Sat Mar 14 12:00:14 2009 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com (James Ruggiero) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 15:00:14 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Norwich trip In-Reply-To: References: <1999082193-1237041928-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1854679391-@bxe1099.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: We're headed down too. J&D On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 1:39 PM, John Tyler wrote: > Hey Jon, if I'm not too late, could I tag along? > > ooc: > John Tyler > US2003031415 > RI002D > > > > > > > To: camri at camarillaprovidence.org > > From: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com > > Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 14:46:28 +0000 > > Subject: [CamRI] Norwich trip > > > > > Good Morning, > > > > I will likely be heading down to Norwich tonight and have room for one > more. Only caveat is I have no sitter, ergo I'm bringing the kids so no > cursing in the car or I kick you out on the side of 395. > > > > Have A Great Day, > > > > Jonathan McDowell, Sr. > > US2002045163 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > CamRI mailing list > > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > > > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org > > ------------------------------ > Hotmail? is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. Find out > more. > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dimmak42 at gmail.com Sun Mar 15 07:46:59 2009 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com (James Ruggiero) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 10:46:59 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Wrasssssssstling!!!!!!!! Message-ID: http://www.justin.tv/clip/79f32529cd7d2a16 Watch the second clip too!!! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From camarilla at childofchaos.com Sun Mar 15 07:40:42 2009 From: camarilla at childofchaos.com (Shuniqua Rodriguez) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 10:40:42 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Wrasssssssstling!!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49BD136A.4070209@childofchaos.com> You mean wrestling is fake?!?!?!?! :-O !!! -Shu Seriously... nice moves. James Ruggiero wrote: > http://www.justin.tv/clip/79f32529cd7d2a16 > > > Watch the second clip too!!! > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org > -- Shuniqua Rodriguez US2002086541 AIM: GMCAddicted Y!: maevedracorum GTalk: shuniqua.rodriguez at gmail.com ICQ: 17781119 From johngrant529 at gmail.com Tue Mar 17 03:49:21 2009 From: johngrant529 at gmail.com (John Grant) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 06:49:21 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Providence and the reset In-Reply-To: References: <225183.46375.qm@web111508.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <49B8FF81.6070402@childofchaos.com> <2fcf1c2b0903120802q2bb58754oecc6a04da35c9c23@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: If she gets stronger and and I am getting weaker. Will I be able to keep my pimp hand strong? I have to be able to keep my 4 dots in pimp hand. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 13, 2009, at 10:00 AM, James Ruggiero wrote: > Well the pimp might get a little weaker but Wanda get's an upgrade. > Wanda 2.0!!! > > Jim > > On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 6:30 AM, John Grant > wrote: > It is hard. I wonder how my pimp is going to make out after the reset. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From johngrant529 at gmail.com Tue Mar 17 05:48:54 2009 From: johngrant529 at gmail.com (John Grant) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:48:54 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Providence and the reset In-Reply-To: References: <225183.46375.qm@web111508.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <49B8FF81.6070402@childofchaos.com> <2fcf1c2b0903120802q2bb58754oecc6a04da35c9c23@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Sign me up. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2009, at 8:43 AM, James Ruggiero wrote: > 2009/3/17 John Grant > If she gets stronger and and I am getting weaker. Will I be able to > keep my pimp hand strong? I have to be able to keep my 4 dots in > pimp hand. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 13, 2009, at 10:00 AM, James Ruggiero > wrote: > > > Tell you what, I'll approve a specialization in pimp slap does that > work for you? > > Jim > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 8ernallysecure at gmail.com Tue Mar 17 08:06:21 2009 From: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com (8ernallysecure at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:06:21 +0000 Subject: [CamRI] Providence and the reset Message-ID: <279495331-1237302338-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-890595073-@bxe1294.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Julius plans to mod his school bus with a big metal pimp hand on the front. "Don't run, b*+ches, don't run!" Have A Great Day, Jonathan McDowell, Sr. US2002045163 From mrcorvin at gmail.com Tue Mar 17 09:18:25 2009 From: mrcorvin at gmail.com (mrcorvin) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:18:25 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Providence and the reset In-Reply-To: <279495331-1237302338-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-890595073-@bxe1294.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <279495331-1237302338-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-890595073-@bxe1294.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <2fcf1c2b0903170918h40495b2dib1818d82aafbbf44@mail.gmail.com> This is why on my build for my Vampire I won't be getting Celerity. Cause real gangsta ass brothers don't run for shit. So I guess that makes Julius, well, shit ;-) On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:06 AM, <8ernallysecure at gmail.com> wrote: > Julius plans to mod his school bus with a big metal pimp hand on the front. > "Don't run, b*+ches, don't run!" > Have A Great Day, > > Jonathan McDowell, Sr. > US2002045163 > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org > -- OOC: Bill Malvasi US2002021749 From johngrant529 at gmail.com Tue Mar 17 10:45:49 2009 From: johngrant529 at gmail.com (John Grant) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:45:49 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Providence and the reset In-Reply-To: <2fcf1c2b0903170918h40495b2dib1818d82aafbbf44@mail.gmail.com> References: <279495331-1237302338-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-890595073-@bxe1294.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <2fcf1c2b0903170918h40495b2dib1818d82aafbbf44@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8796261D-5352-469D-971C-C07916BD6B04@gmail.com> Gangsta is all about The first part of the word. GANG you run and get your boyz and ride on who was messing with you. Ride or die Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2009, at 12:18 PM, mrcorvin wrote: > This is why on my build for my Vampire I won't be getting Celerity. > > Cause real gangsta ass brothers don't run for shit. > > So I guess that makes Julius, well, shit ;-) > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:06 AM, <8ernallysecure at gmail.com> wrote: >> Julius plans to mod his school bus with a big metal pimp hand on >> the front. >> "Don't run, b*+ches, don't run!" >> Have A Great Day, >> >> Jonathan McDowell, Sr. >> US2002045163 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CamRI mailing list >> CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org >> http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org >> > > > > -- > OOC: > Bill Malvasi > US2002021749 > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org From mrcorvin at gmail.com Tue Mar 17 10:52:33 2009 From: mrcorvin at gmail.com (mrcorvin) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:52:33 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Providence and the reset In-Reply-To: <8796261D-5352-469D-971C-C07916BD6B04@gmail.com> References: <279495331-1237302338-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-890595073-@bxe1294.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <2fcf1c2b0903170918h40495b2dib1818d82aafbbf44@mail.gmail.com> <8796261D-5352-469D-971C-C07916BD6B04@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2fcf1c2b0903171052n39b1df6au331120ecdd5a354@mail.gmail.com> But you run, you're a bitch, so you should always have your gang. On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 1:45 PM, John Grant wrote: > Gangsta is all about The first part of the word. GANG you run and get your > boyz and ride on who was messing with you. Ride or die > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 17, 2009, at 12:18 PM, mrcorvin wrote: > >> This is why on my build for my Vampire I won't be getting Celerity. >> >> Cause real gangsta ass brothers don't run for shit. >> >> So I guess that makes Julius, well, shit ;-) >> >> On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:06 AM, ?<8ernallysecure at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Julius plans to mod his school bus with a big metal pimp hand on the >>> front. >>> "Don't run, b*+ches, don't run!" >>> Have A Great Day, >>> >>> Jonathan McDowell, Sr. >>> US2002045163 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> CamRI mailing list >>> CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org >>> >>> http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> OOC: >> Bill Malvasi >> US2002021749 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CamRI mailing list >> CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org >> >> http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org > -- OOC: Bill Malvasi US2002021749 From us2003031415 at hotmail.com Tue Mar 17 11:11:29 2009 From: us2003031415 at hotmail.com (John Tyler) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:11:29 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Providence and the reset In-Reply-To: <2fcf1c2b0903170918h40495b2dib1818d82aafbbf44@mail.gmail.com> References: <279495331-1237302338-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-890595073-@bxe1294.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <2fcf1c2b0903170918h40495b2dib1818d82aafbbf44@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > So I guess that makes Julius, well, shit ;-) You forgot the "THE". After all, everybody knows that Julius is THE Shit! ooc: John Tyler US2003031415 RI002D _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Life without walls. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johngrant529 at gmail.com Tue Mar 17 11:18:51 2009 From: johngrant529 at gmail.com (John Grant) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:18:51 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Providence and the reset In-Reply-To: <2fcf1c2b0903171052n39b1df6au331120ecdd5a354@mail.gmail.com> References: <279495331-1237302338-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-890595073-@bxe1294.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <2fcf1c2b0903170918h40495b2dib1818d82aafbbf44@mail.gmail.com> <8796261D-5352-469D-971C-C07916BD6B04@gmail.com> <2fcf1c2b0903171052n39b1df6au331120ecdd5a354@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <102C08B4-5439-494C-A827-09A4A4E4A737@gmail.com> That's why you kill the guy messing with you. If there is no living witness to you doing something it never happened. That's gangsta rule # 2 Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2009, at 1:52 PM, mrcorvin wrote: > But you run, you're a bitch, so you should always have your gang. > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 1:45 PM, John Grant > wrote: >> Gangsta is all about The first part of the word. GANG you run and >> get your >> boyz and ride on who was messing with you. Ride or die >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Mar 17, 2009, at 12:18 PM, mrcorvin wrote: >> >>> This is why on my build for my Vampire I won't be getting Celerity. >>> >>> Cause real gangsta ass brothers don't run for shit. >>> >>> So I guess that makes Julius, well, shit ;-) >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:06 AM, <8ernallysecure at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Julius plans to mod his school bus with a big metal pimp hand on >>>> the >>>> front. >>>> "Don't run, b*+ches, don't run!" >>>> Have A Great Day, >>>> >>>> Jonathan McDowell, Sr. >>>> US2002045163 >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> CamRI mailing list >>>> CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org >>>> >>>> http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> OOC: >>> Bill Malvasi >>> US2002021749 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> CamRI mailing list >>> CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org >>> >>> http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CamRI mailing list >> CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org >> http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org >> > > > > -- > OOC: > Bill Malvasi > US2002021749 > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org From mrcorvin at gmail.com Tue Mar 17 11:40:15 2009 From: mrcorvin at gmail.com (mrcorvin) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:40:15 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Damn it feels good to be Invictus Message-ID: <2fcf1c2b0903171140l47a8d7e9m18d56bae70972417@mail.gmail.com> Damn it feels good to be Invictus A real Invictus kindred plays his boons right A real Invictus kindred never runs his fuckin mouth Cuz real Invictus Kindred dont start fights (we finish them) And Kindred always gotta high cap Showin all his boys how he staked'em But real Invictus kindred dont flex nuts Cuz real Invictus kindred know they got em (Metaphorically) And everythings cool in the mind of an Invictus Cuz Invictus Kindred think deep Up three-sixty-five a year 24/7 Cuz real Invictus Kindred dont sleep And all I gotta say to you Wannabe, gonnabe, boonwastin', kitten drinkin' prankstas Cuz when the fry dies down what the fuck you gonna do Damn it feels good to be Invictus Damn it feels good to be Invictus A real Invictus Kindred knows the play Real Invictus Kindred get the flyest of the vassels Ask that Invictus Alder Erick K Cuz Invictus Kindred be the gang playas And everythings quiet in the clique A Invictus Kindred takes it out and pulls the trigger And his coterie and vassals aint tellin off shit Real Invicitus Kindred dont talk much All ya hear is the black from the gun blast And real Invictus Kindred dont run for shit Cuz real Invictus Kindred have vassals who can run fast Now when you in the free world talkin shit do the shit Hit the pen and let the mothafuckas shank ya But Invictus like myself kick back and peep game Cuz damn it feels good to be a Invictus -- OOC: Bill Malvasi US2002021749 From 8ernallysecure at gmail.com Tue Mar 17 12:11:47 2009 From: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com (8ernallysecure at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:11:47 +0000 Subject: [CamRI] Damn it feels good to be Invictus Message-ID: <434995171-1237317049-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-102129976-@bxe1242.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> We have got to get an IC list for this kind of stuff. Have A Great Day, Jonathan McDowell, Sr. US2002045163 From dimmak42 at gmail.com Tue Mar 17 12:13:48 2009 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com (James Ruggiero) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:13:48 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Damn it feels good to be Invictus In-Reply-To: <434995171-1237317049-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-102129976-@bxe1242.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <434995171-1237317049-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-102129976-@bxe1242.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: I am working on a secure forum but I was thinking about a wiki instead. Jim On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 3:11 PM, <8ernallysecure at gmail.com> wrote: > We have got to get an IC list for this kind of stuff. > Have A Great Day, > > Jonathan McDowell, Sr. > US2002045163 > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mrcorvin at gmail.com Tue Mar 17 12:46:01 2009 From: mrcorvin at gmail.com (mrcorvin) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:46:01 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Damn it feels good to be Invictus In-Reply-To: <434995171-1237317049-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-102129976-@bxe1242.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <434995171-1237317049-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-102129976-@bxe1242.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <2fcf1c2b0903171246h8a6a7b5s55f35a3d578c525d@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 3:11 PM, <8ernallysecure at gmail.com> wrote: > We have got to get an IC list for this kind of stuff. Heh, I'm still working on two verses of that one to work it out correctly, but at the same time, certain things wouldn't be good to get out to the Invictus. Yet. -- OOC: Bill Malvasi US2002021749 From us2003031415 at hotmail.com Wed Mar 18 12:25:02 2009 From: us2003031415 at hotmail.com (John Tyler) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:25:02 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Ride to this weekend's games Message-ID: Hi guys, I know it may be a little soon for this but it can't hurt to be prepared. It turns out that over the weekend I managed to drive over a drywall screw that, well let's put it bluntly, screwed my tire, and me along with it. At this time, I don't have the available cash flow to replace it and barring a small miracle, won't have it before the weekend. So what I'm asking is, could somebody going to Requiem on Saturday and Mage on Sunday, please (pretty please, with sugar and prestige on top) be kind enough to give a stranded cammie a ride? I do have enough to contribute toward gas. It's just those darned tires aren't cheap. ooc: John Tyler US2003031415 RI002D _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail?. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dc at camarillaprovidence.org Wed Mar 18 13:37:51 2009 From: dc at camarillaprovidence.org (Melissa McDowell) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:37:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [CamRI] (no subject) Message-ID: <2742.70.109.194.142.1237408671.squirrel@www.camarillaprovidence.org> RI Game: REQUIEM: When: Saturday February 21st Check-in 7:00 Game 8-? Where: 24 Anthony Drive Cumberland, RI 02864 Site Donation $2.00 REQUIEM TEASER ================================================================== "Budget cuts, over spending, screwing with our pension," the chief says grinding his cigarette into the over flowing ashtray. "Don't they realize we fighting for our f***g lives out there?" Grumbling he looks at his stained T-shirt, brushing the crumbs that have gotten hooked in his suspenders, the only thing holding the uniform pants up, "We're fighting real monsters out there kid. Rapist, murderers, pfft its like the god damn 20s, shop owners getting shaken down.. in broad day light sometimes." He shrugs on his vest and snaps the suspenders once, "sometimes I think we're the only thing holding this city up." "Hey, Chief. I mean we got that new shelter keeping them bums off the street right? That Hastings joint, right? See there still good folks out there, " the rookies vainly attempts to get his officer to get out of progressively worse mood. "Keep dreaming kid. I got my ear out there, the bums keep disappearing. Some vigilante ape keeping them all hushed up, too," he shakes his head heavily pulling his blues over the vest. "I need some comic book nut out there like I need a hole in the head. Alright rookie, your driving lets hope this isn't another 187." ================================================================== PROJO REPORTS Carver enterprises continue negotiations for ownership. College kids on PC Campus arrest for pseudo-cult activities. Woman gives birth in back alley, says large homeless man helps in delivery. City workers complain of pest problem and large rodents. Unemployment, taxes and violence up. Another person found dead. There liver appears to have been removed. Does Providence have a serial killer? =================================================================== MAGE: Where: 6 Cedar Pond Dr Apt 6 Warwick, RI 02886 When: March 22nd Check-in 6pm RP 7pm No teaser was provided by the ST. -- Thank you for your time, Melissa McDowell US2004082008 DC RI-002-D dc at camarillaprovidence.org AIM,YAHOO,MSN: (search for) ricamgirl From dimmak42 at gmail.com Thu Mar 19 13:01:57 2009 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com (James Ruggiero) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:01:57 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] It commeth GOTM Message-ID: Hey Folks, In April we are the featured game of the month. I suspect we are going to get a very large turn out because under the new system we are the only game in our quarter that will award over cap XP before the Reset. Yes we get to keep the over cap XP. As such we have a month to plan and we are looking for ideas on where we should hold this. Do we try to rent a location? I know our DC mentioned our funds are small so any ideas would be great. Jim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mrcorvin at gmail.com Thu Mar 19 13:07:06 2009 From: mrcorvin at gmail.com (mrcorvin) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:07:06 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Crash Space/Ride from and back to train? Message-ID: <2fcf1c2b0903191307w67e5152bg834f5a0e42271336@mail.gmail.com> I'd like to go to the Requiem game, but I take the commuter rail. Is there any chance I could get transport to and from the Commuter Rail plus Crash Space? -- OOC: Bill Malvasi US2002021749 From 8ernallysecure at gmail.com Thu Mar 19 14:43:47 2009 From: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com (8ernallysecure at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:43:47 +0000 Subject: [CamRI] Crash Space/Ride from and back to train? Message-ID: <1297085578-1237498932-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-973970009-@bxe1169.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Good evening, I can't promise a pick-up, though I'm certain we can work something out as a domain. I can however promise that your family in PVD will have floor space available. It's not much, but it's certainly available. Have A Great Day, Jonathan McDowell, Sr. US2002045163 From mrcorvin at gmail.com Thu Mar 19 18:26:26 2009 From: mrcorvin at gmail.com (mrcorvin) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:26:26 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Crash Space/Ride from and back to train? In-Reply-To: <1297085578-1237498932-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-973970009-@bxe1169.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <1297085578-1237498932-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-973970009-@bxe1169.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <2fcf1c2b0903191826q1c5fedfeoc215eb2e00a8ebc8@mail.gmail.com> Floor/Couch, whatever. Where I crash isn't much of an issue, I'm thinking more about the getting there and getting home. If Mage wasn't so late and I didn't have to work on Monday morning I'd go for that (though after my move in April, that idea will be able to see more reality). > ? ? I can't promise a pick-up, though I'm certain we can work something out as a domain. I can however promise that your family in PVD will have floor space available. It's not much, but it's certainly available. -- OOC: Bill Malvasi US2002021749 From chloethegiamassi at hotmail.com Thu Mar 19 21:06:45 2009 From: chloethegiamassi at hotmail.com (Jenn Gerardi) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:06:45 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Ride to this weekend's games In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I can grab you on the way to the train. :) OOC: Jenn Gerardi US2005116891 IC: Madam Chloe Kirshenbaum, Consigliere to the Giamassi Family Valued among the Invictus "Everybody's buisness is nobody's buisness" From: us2003031415 at hotmail.com To: camri at camarillaprovidence.org Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:25:02 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Ride to this weekend's games Hi guys, I know it may be a little soon for this but it can't hurt to be prepared. It turns out that over the weekend I managed to drive over a drywall screw that, well let's put it bluntly, screwed my tire, and me along with it. At this time, I don't have the available cash flow to replace it and barring a small miracle, won't have it before the weekend. So what I'm asking is, could somebody going to Requiem on Saturday and Mage on Sunday, please (pretty please, with sugar and prestige on top) be kind enough to give a stranded cammie a ride? I do have enough to contribute toward gas. It's just those darned tires aren't cheap. ooc: John Tyler US2003031415 RI002D Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail?. See how. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail? is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chloethegiamassi at hotmail.com Thu Mar 19 21:05:34 2009 From: chloethegiamassi at hotmail.com (Jenn Gerardi) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:05:34 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Crash Space/Ride from and back to train? In-Reply-To: <2fcf1c2b0903191826q1c5fedfeoc215eb2e00a8ebc8@mail.gmail.com> References: <1297085578-1237498932-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-973970009-@bxe1169.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <2fcf1c2b0903191826q1c5fedfeoc215eb2e00a8ebc8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Pick up I can do. :) OOC: Jenn Gerardi US2005116891 IC: Madam Chloe Kirshenbaum, Consigliere to the Giamassi Family Valued among the Invictus "Everybody's buisness is nobody's buisness" > Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:26:26 -0400 > From: mrcorvin at gmail.com > To: CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org; 8ernallysecure at gmail.com > Subject: Re: [CamRI] Crash Space/Ride from and back to train? > > Floor/Couch, whatever. Where I crash isn't much of an issue, I'm > thinking more about the getting there and getting home. > > If Mage wasn't so late and I didn't have to work on Monday morning I'd > go for that (though after my move in April, that idea will be able to > see more reality). > > > I can't promise a pick-up, though I'm certain we can work something out as a domain. I can however promise that your family in PVD will have floor space available. It's not much, but it's certainly available. > > -- > OOC: > Bill Malvasi > US2002021749 > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Life without walls. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dimmak42 at gmail.com Fri Mar 20 05:40:28 2009 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com (James Ruggiero) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:40:28 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Ride to this weekend's games In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sounds like mom wants out of the house. Not sure how feasable this is but John, correct me if I am wrong but don't you live within walking distance from the T-station? Perhaps we can do a caravan, Jenn > Train > John > game. Assuming John has floor space? :( Sorry I got the on call shift again so I am not of much help. Doubly worse is that I have it during game next month too. Jim 2009/3/20 Jenn Gerardi > I can grab you on the way to the train. :) > > OOC: Jenn Gerardi > US2005116891 > > IC: Madam Chloe Kirshenbaum, Consigliere to the Giamassi Family > Valued among the Invictus > > "Everybody's buisness is nobody's buisness" > > > > ------------------------------ > From: us2003031415 at hotmail.com > To: camri at camarillaprovidence.org > Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:25:02 -0400 > Subject: [CamRI] Ride to this weekend's games > > > Hi guys, > I know it may be a little soon for this but it can't hurt to be > prepared. It turns out that over the weekend I managed to drive over a > drywall screw that, well let's put it bluntly, screwed my tire, and me along > with it. At this time, I don't have the available cash flow to replace it > and barring a small miracle, won't have it before the weekend. So what I'm > asking is, could somebody going to Requiem on Saturday and Mage on Sunday, > please (pretty please, with sugar and prestige on top) be kind enough to > give a stranded cammie a ride? I do have enough to contribute toward gas. > It's just those darned tires aren't cheap. > > ooc: > John Tyler > US2003031415 > RI002D > > > > > ------------------------------ > Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail?. See > how. > ------------------------------ > Hotmail? is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. Find out > more. > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 8ernallysecure at gmail.com Fri Mar 20 06:48:34 2009 From: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com (8ernallysecure at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:48:34 +0000 Subject: [CamRI] Ride to this weekend's games Message-ID: <923031808-1237556819-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1909469357-@bxe1216.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Good Morning, I'm assuming you're talking to John Grant or John Tyler; I KNOW that you're not talking to me. After a decade of friendship, I am certain you didn't put an H in my name - multiple times - If you ARE talking to me: 1. Epic Friendship Fail, Mr. Rougjeirrio 2. I do not live w/in walking distance of the T unless you're in the Army, in which case "walking distance" is a whole different unit of measure. 3. Crash space at our house was offered, he is IC family, after all. 4. Jenn has offered pick-up, which is especially exciting as it suggests a visit from a Chloe! I hope this helps. Jon Have A Great Day, Jonathan McDowell, Sr. US2002045163 From dimmak42 at gmail.com Fri Mar 20 07:01:36 2009 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com (James Ruggiero) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:01:36 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Ride to this weekend's games In-Reply-To: <923031808-1237556819-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1909469357-@bxe1216.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <923031808-1237556819-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1909469357-@bxe1216.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: Yes, the Chloe-nator comes..... MWHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 8ernallysecure at gmail.com Fri Mar 20 07:24:38 2009 From: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com (8ernallysecure at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:24:38 +0000 Subject: [CamRI] Fw: This weekend's Requiem Site Message-ID: <1328260535-1237558986-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1542165707-@bxe1075.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Sorry, meant to send this to the list: Have A Great Day, Jonathan McDowell, Sr. US2002045163 -----Original Message----- From: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:24:00 To: Jim Ruggerio Subject: This weekend's Requiem Site Good Morning, Please be advised that we currently have a stray cat in our garage. We are safe guarding it while we look for its family. If you are visiting us this weekend, please DO NOT enter, open, or use the garage. This will be announced again at game. Thank you. Have A Great Day, Jonathan McDowell, Sr. US2002045163 From mrcorvin at gmail.com Fri Mar 20 07:35:10 2009 From: mrcorvin at gmail.com (mrcorvin) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:35:10 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Ride to this weekend's games In-Reply-To: <923031808-1237556819-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1909469357-@bxe1216.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <923031808-1237556819-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1909469357-@bxe1216.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <2fcf1c2b0903200735q83f8feal203dd475075052c4@mail.gmail.com> > 1. Epic Friendship Fail, Mr. Rougjeirrio > 2. I do not live w/in walking distance of the T unless you're in the Army, in which case "walking distance" is a whole different unit of measure. > 3. Crash space at our house was offered, he is IC family, after all. I think in this case, he was thinking more of Drop Off, as I'd need to get dropped off at the station the next morning. With pickup it would just be "Which station do I go to? Providence or Attleborough?" -- OOC: Bill Malvasi US2002021749 From camarilla at childofchaos.com Fri Mar 20 07:41:58 2009 From: camarilla at childofchaos.com (Shuniqua Rodriguez) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:41:58 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Fw: This weekend's Requiem Site In-Reply-To: <1328260535-1237558986-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1542165707-@bxe1075.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <1328260535-1237558986-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1542165707-@bxe1075.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <49C3AB36.60809@childofchaos.com> Awww poor guy -Shu 8ernallysecure at gmail.com wrote: > Sorry, meant to send this to the list: > Have A Great Day, > > Jonathan McDowell, Sr. > US2002045163 > > -----Original Message----- > From: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com > > Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:24:00 > To: Jim Ruggerio > Subject: This weekend's Requiem Site > > > Good Morning, > > Please be advised that we currently have a stray cat in our garage. We are safe guarding it while we look for its family. > > If you are visiting us this weekend, please DO NOT enter, open, or use the garage. > > This will be announced again at game. Thank you. > Have A Great Day, > > Jonathan McDowell, Sr. > US2002045163 > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org > -- Shuniqua Rodriguez US2002086541 AIM: GMCAddicted Y!: maevedracorum GTalk: shuniqua.rodriguez at gmail.com ICQ: 17781119 From us2003031415 at hotmail.com Fri Mar 20 12:23:03 2009 From: us2003031415 at hotmail.com (John Tyler) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:23:03 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Ride to this weekend's games In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: As a matter of fact, yes I do live within easy walking distance of the train. What with my car being out of commission at the moment, I'd be willing to ride car pool with whoever picks up Bill assuming they have room. ooc: John Tyler US2003031415 RI002D Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:40:28 -0400 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com To: CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org Subject: Re: [CamRI] Ride to this weekend's games Sounds like mom wants out of the house. Not sure how feasable this is but John, correct me if I am wrong but don't you live within walking distance from the T-station? Perhaps we can do a caravan, Jenn > Train > John > game. Assuming John has floor space? :( Sorry I got the on call shift again so I am not of much help. Doubly worse is that I have it during game next month too. Jim 2009/3/20 Jenn Gerardi I can grab you on the way to the train. :) OOC: Jenn Gerardi US2005116891 IC: Madam Chloe Kirshenbaum, Consigliere to the Giamassi Family Valued among the Invictus "Everybody's buisness is nobody's buisness" From: us2003031415 at hotmail.com To: camri at camarillaprovidence.org Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:25:02 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Ride to this weekend's games Hi guys, I know it may be a little soon for this but it can't hurt to be prepared. It turns out that over the weekend I managed to drive over a drywall screw that, well let's put it bluntly, screwed my tire, and me along with it. At this time, I don't have the available cash flow to replace it and barring a small miracle, won't have it before the weekend. So what I'm asking is, could somebody going to Requiem on Saturday and Mage on Sunday, please (pretty please, with sugar and prestige on top) be kind enough to give a stranded cammie a ride? I do have enough to contribute toward gas. It's just those darned tires aren't cheap. ooc: John Tyler US2003031415 RI002D Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail?. See how. Hotmail? is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. Find out more. _______________________________________________ CamRI mailing list CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org _________________________________________________________________ Get quick access to your favorite MSN content with Internet Explorer 8. http://ie8.msn.com/microsoft/internet-explorer-8/en-us/ie8.aspx?ocid=B037MSN55C0701A -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From us2003031415 at hotmail.com Fri Mar 20 12:27:21 2009 From: us2003031415 at hotmail.com (John Tyler) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:27:21 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Ride to this weekend's games In-Reply-To: <2fcf1c2b0903200735q83f8feal203dd475075052c4@mail.gmail.com> References: <923031808-1237556819-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1909469357-@bxe1216.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <2fcf1c2b0903200735q83f8feal203dd475075052c4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I'm working on the assumption of Providence, as I don't live or work all that close to Attleboro, nor does Jenn. > > With pickup it would just be "Which station do I go to? Providence or > Attleborough?" > ooc: John Tyler US2003031415 RI002D _________________________________________________________________ Internet Explorer 8 ? Now Available. Faster, safer, easier. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/141323790/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dimmak42 at gmail.com Fri Mar 20 13:34:39 2009 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com (James Ruggiero) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:34:39 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Ride to this weekend's games In-Reply-To: References: <923031808-1237556819-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1909469357-@bxe1216.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <2fcf1c2b0903200735q83f8feal203dd475075052c4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: My theory is as follows: If Bill travels to Providence, both John and Bill can be picked up together. Bill then needs to get to the T the following day, which he either needs to crash at the McD's and someone drive him to N Attlborro or Prov; alternatively if John T can put him up then he will already be close the Providence T Station. Normally I would be happy to pick bill up and give crash space but I will be on call this weekend and wel... it sucks Thoughts? Jim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From us2003031415 at hotmail.com Fri Mar 20 14:00:25 2009 From: us2003031415 at hotmail.com (John Tyler) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:00:25 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Ride to this weekend's games In-Reply-To: References: <923031808-1237556819-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1909469357-@bxe1216.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <2fcf1c2b0903200735q83f8feal203dd475075052c4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Honestly, while I'd love to be able to offer crash space as needed, my apartment is a hole in the wall barely big enough for myself. But other than that, the plan sounds reasonably feasible. ooc: John Tyler US2003031415 RI002D Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:34:39 -0400 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com To: CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org Subject: Re: [CamRI] Ride to this weekend's games My theory is as follows: If Bill travels to Providence, both John and Bill can be picked up together. Bill then needs to get to the T the following day, which he either needs to crash at the McD's and someone drive him to N Attlborro or Prov; alternatively if John T can put him up then he will already be close the Providence T Station. Normally I would be happy to pick bill up and give crash space but I will be on call this weekend and wel... it sucks Thoughts? Jim _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail? is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From chloethegiamassi at hotmail.com Fri Mar 20 14:52:11 2009 From: chloethegiamassi at hotmail.com (Jenn Gerardi) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:52:11 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Ride to this weekend's games In-Reply-To: References: <923031808-1237556819-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1909469357-@bxe1216.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <2fcf1c2b0903200735q83f8feal203dd475075052c4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Ok...i NEVER said that chloe was gonna play. Of course it's kindda stupid to drive to game if I'm not going to go. That being said, I'm not available to pick anyone until 5ish. Also, if you are allergic to infants, dogs or cats, you may not want to ride with me. Fair warning to the ST staff... I don't have a chloe charachter sheet and I am too lazy to pull it off the CRD sooo I may not play. Someone let me know what I am doing. I can pick up in N Attleboro or providence or both. OOC: Jenn Gerardi US2005116891 IC: Madam Chloe Kirshenbaum, Consigliere to the Giamassi Family Valued among the Invictus "Everybody's buisness is nobody's buisness" Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:45:20 -0400 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com To: CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org Subject: Re: [CamRI] Ride to this weekend's games Fair enough. Jon McD if Bill crashes at your place can you get him to the N Attleboro T on Sunday? PS WE HAVE TOO MANY JOHNS... of course I am sure the pimps are happy about this. Jim 2009/3/20 John Tyler Honestly, while I'd love to be able to offer crash space as needed, my apartment is a hole in the wall barely big enough for myself. But other than that, the plan sounds reasonably feasible. ooc: John Tyler US2003031415 RI002D _________________________________________________________________ Get quick access to your favorite MSN content with Internet Explorer 8. http://ie8.msn.com/microsoft/internet-explorer-8/en-us/ie8.aspx?ocid=B037MSN55C0701A -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tkitch at gmail.com Fri Mar 20 15:35:49 2009 From: tkitch at gmail.com (Mike ''Thrasher'' Kitchenman) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:35:49 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Earn 5 Regional Prestige! NE Region Reset Survey! Message-ID: I am resending this out, just to get it noticed again. Please get as many members as we can to respond to this! The poll will be closed Monday Evening, then results tabulated, and sent off to the National and Global offices. The more responses we get, the better the numbers will reflect the opinion of our region! Please get as many people to answer as possible! Additionally, it's 5 Regional Prestige for a few minutes worth of work! :) -Kitch US2007039619 ARC Admin Good Evening Camarilla Members, As I am sure you have been made aware, on June 8th the current Camarilla chronicle will be undergoing a Soft Reset. At this point, all current characters either need to be retired and be rebuilt under a new MC & XP System, or be retired and have a new PC built in their place. The full rules for this are located here: http://camarilla.white-wolf.com/MST//index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=705&Itemid=16 http://camarilla.white-wolf.com/MST//index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=704&Itemid=16 Please review these documents carefully if you have not read them previously, they contain a great deal of information which is very important in how the reset will occour. If you do not know, a Soft Reset is an event where after a specific time (June 8th) the entire chronicle has the PC builds change dramatically, but the story of the chronicle thus far remains intact. In an effort to gague the opinions of the members in our region, and how you feel this will affect your game(s) and how you expect it to affect you. Please take the survey and complete all 10 questions to help us with this. http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=WWIJK76uBtAuuanQKd0B6Q_3d_3d All members who complete the survey and fill in the final question with their Name, Cam Number and E-Mail Address for verification will receive 5 Regional prestige for your work. Please help with this by forwarding this to your local Domain OOC list. Thanks for the help! -Kitch US2007039619 ARC Admin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mrcorvin at gmail.com Fri Mar 20 18:56:02 2009 From: mrcorvin at gmail.com (mrcorvin) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 21:56:02 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Ride to this weekend's games In-Reply-To: References: <923031808-1237556819-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1909469357-@bxe1216.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <2fcf1c2b0903200735q83f8feal203dd475075052c4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2fcf1c2b0903201856h54f983c4gde4367d340adae33@mail.gmail.com> > Fair warning to the ST staff... I don't have a chloe charachter sheet and I > am too lazy to pull it off the CRD sooo I may not play. Sadly, while I informed people in WoW, this will not matter. I'm moving to another part of Boston, and I realized that I really need to use this weekend to get set for the move, which means doing piles of laundry, and pack. -- OOC: Bill Malvasi US2002021749 From chloethegiamassi at hotmail.com Fri Mar 20 21:43:57 2009 From: chloethegiamassi at hotmail.com (Jenn Gerardi) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 00:43:57 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Ride to this weekend's games In-Reply-To: <2fcf1c2b0903201856h54f983c4gde4367d340adae33@mail.gmail.com> References: <923031808-1237556819-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1909469357-@bxe1216.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <2fcf1c2b0903200735q83f8feal203dd475075052c4@mail.gmail.com> <2fcf1c2b0903201856h54f983c4gde4367d340adae33@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Awww... you were my excuse to go. Now I'm just gonna drive John and leave. *sigh* :) OOC: Jenn Gerardi US2005116891 IC: Madam Chloe Kirshenbaum, Consigliere to the Giamassi Family Valued among the Invictus "Everybody's buisness is nobody's buisness" > Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 21:56:02 -0400 > From: mrcorvin at gmail.com > To: CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > Subject: Re: [CamRI] Ride to this weekend's games > > > Fair warning to the ST staff... I don't have a chloe charachter sheet and I > > am too lazy to pull it off the CRD sooo I may not play. > > Sadly, while I informed people in WoW, this will not matter. > > I'm moving to another part of Boston, and I realized that I really > need to use this weekend to get set for the move, which means doing > piles of laundry, and pack. > > -- > OOC: > Bill Malvasi > US2002021749 > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? SkyDrive: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_skydrive_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 8ernallysecure at gmail.com Sat Mar 21 09:01:09 2009 From: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com (8ernallysecure at gmail.com) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:01:09 +0000 Subject: [CamRI] Chloe Message-ID: <766586384-1237651170-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-650628274-@bxe1164.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Just shows how PCs differ from their players- Jenn can't keep a character sheet on hand while Chloe has teams of people devoted to filing all the dirty laundry she has on paper. Then again, I suppose Jenn has a team devoted to doing dirty laundry too...speaking of which, I think it's time to add the fabric softener, Peter. ;) Have A Great Day, Jonathan McDowell, Sr. US2002045163 From mrcorvin at gmail.com Sat Mar 21 10:24:48 2009 From: mrcorvin at gmail.com (mrcorvin) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:24:48 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Ride to this weekend's games In-Reply-To: References: <923031808-1237556819-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1909469357-@bxe1216.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <2fcf1c2b0903200735q83f8feal203dd475075052c4@mail.gmail.com> <2fcf1c2b0903201856h54f983c4gde4367d340adae33@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2fcf1c2b0903211024x1a0b9fa5v6ad8b3052648ae0c@mail.gmail.com> Sorry for another invictus in town not showing up... sadly I have to be mature. For example, I was pricing new Beds yesterday and thought "this is a very adult thing I'm doing..." and then said "I don't want to be an adult, do you know how many X-box games I can buy for a price of a bed?!?!?!" 2009/3/21 Jenn Gerardi : > Awww... you were my excuse to go. Now I'm just gonna drive John and leave. > *sigh* :) > > OOC: Jenn Gerardi > US2005116891 > > IC: Madam Chloe Kirshenbaum, Consigliere to the Giamassi Family > Valued among the Invictus > > "Everybody's buisness is nobody's buisness" > > > >> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 21:56:02 -0400 >> From: mrcorvin at gmail.com >> To: CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org >> Subject: Re: [CamRI] Ride to this weekend's games >> >> > Fair warning to the ST staff... I don't have a chloe charachter sheet >> > and I >> > am too lazy to pull it off the CRD sooo I may not play. >> >> Sadly, while I informed people in WoW, this will not matter. >> >> I'm moving to another part of Boston, and I realized that I really >> need to use this weekend to get set for the move, which means doing >> piles of laundry, and pack. >> >> -- >> OOC: >> Bill Malvasi >> US2002021749 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CamRI mailing list >> CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org >> >> http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org > > ________________________________ > Windows Live? SkyDrive: Get 25 GB of free online storage. Check it out. > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org > > -- OOC: Bill Malvasi US2002021749 From 8ernallysecure at gmail.com Sat Mar 21 10:35:17 2009 From: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com (8ernallysecure at gmail.com) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:35:17 +0000 Subject: [CamRI] Ride to this weekend's games Message-ID: <1616118222-1237656819-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1861678587-@bxe1164.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> And to be fair, if you bought all the games, you'd be awake more so you wouldn't need the bed... Have A Great Day, Jonathan McDowell, Sr. US2002045163 From us2003031415 at hotmail.com Sat Mar 21 11:42:35 2009 From: us2003031415 at hotmail.com (John Tyler) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 14:42:35 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Ride to this weekend's games In-Reply-To: References: <923031808-1237556819-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1909469357-@bxe1216.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <2fcf1c2b0903200735q83f8feal203dd475075052c4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Well, since check-in isn't until 7:00 after 5ish should be fine. Since Bill's not coming in to the train station is it easier for you to come pick me up at my place in Fox Point, or easier for me to meet you somewhere? BY the way, I'm fine with cat's dogs, and babies. Give me a call at 391-2580 and we can coordinate. ooc: John Tyler US2003031415 RI002D From: chloethegiamassi at hotmail.com To: camri at camarillaprovidence.org Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:52:11 -0400 Subject: Re: [CamRI] Ride to this weekend's games Ok...i NEVER said that chloe was gonna play. Of course it's kindda stupid to drive to game if I'm not going to go. That being said, I'm not available to pick anyone until 5ish. Also, if you are allergic to infants, dogs or cats, you may not want to ride with me. Fair warning to the ST staff... I don't have a chloe charachter sheet and I am too lazy to pull it off the CRD sooo I may not play. Someone let me know what I am doing. I can pick up in N Attleboro or providence or both. OOC: Jenn Gerardi US2005116891 IC: Madam Chloe Kirshenbaum, Consigliere to the Giamassi Family Valued among the Invictus "Everybody's buisness is nobody's buisness" _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! 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Have A Great Day, Jonathan McDowell, Sr. US2002045163 From dimmak42 at gmail.com Mon Mar 23 09:49:06 2009 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com (James Ruggiero) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:49:06 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] IC: Galmi to the Awakened Message-ID: Fellow Awakened, Let me be blunt, I don't like a lot of you. You don't see the same ideals as I do but I do respect you for what you are. I have three priorities: 1. Protect my fellow Awakened 2. Protect the Sleepers. 3. Protect everything else. Last night I touched on a problem. The Court of Pain is gone, usurped by some other unknown court. It represenative was either not completely formed, had not completed assimilating its prey, or worse is it's concept is totally alien to man. For those who don't know about spirits, simply they are concepts that have gained sentience and will of their own. We, through Deacon and myself, have had a tenuous relationship with the court of pain that has bordered on an alliance. Now our ally in the spirit world is gone. They have helped us in the past and I will do what I can to help. But we must be on our guard, this shift in paradigm will bleed into our world in unknown ways. You may have noticed a feeling of being watched, because this is true. Lesser concepts have been enslaved by greater to watch us. Whether this is curiosity or an attempt to find our weaknesses we must prepare ourselves for the worst. That is all, Galmi ===================================== James A Ruggiero US2002023492 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We've had a lot of things going on of late and it's always good to take the time to interact with the members and help answer questions we may have not yet addressed. As per normal, Office Hours will be organized within a moderated IRC channel as outlined below: Darkmyst server #mst-office PWD - None, public access Questions will be directed by private message to designated member/s of the Settings Staff and will be replied to in the order they were received. Thanks so much and I look forward to seeing you there! Michelle Webb MST WW2002021096 _______________________________________________ Camarilla-announce mailing list Camarilla-announce at cammail.white-wolf.com http://cammail.white-wolf.com/mailman/listinfo/camarilla-announce -- Thrasher Kitch Huh, did I miss someting? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chrispy at camarillaprovidence.org Mon Mar 23 19:37:20 2009 From: chrispy at camarillaprovidence.org (chrispy at camarillaprovidence.org) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:37:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [CamRI] IC: Galmi to the Awakened In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <63648.72.192.19.55.1237862240.squirrel@www.camarillaprovidence.org> Ladies and gents; As usual, we find ourselves facing trouble comin' down the pike. Is anyone surprised? I thought not. Magi attract trouble. But that's okay. Violence is the spice of life. Personally I don't give a damn about who likes who. When my life becomes a Dawson's Creek episode, perhaps that'll matter. Until then, I just don't care. We gotta job to do, let's get it done; period. Now I say we focus on getting the current gameplan. Let's get the Spear and the Golden Bear courts in on this; get their input. No sense in making enemies when we could be making allies. Besides maybe they know more about this skull that Sexton seems so fond of. The circle of runes turned out to be some shield, probably of space and spirit, but was disturbed by whoever was working at the site of the skull. Looks like our friend Tora was the one who carved up them ghosts. Our Moros members would know more about this sorta thing, and I'm inclined to go with their recommendations. 'Course if any of ya'll got some better ideas, let's hear em, this ain't no time to keep mum. Ladies and Gents, we've had trouble before, we'll have trouble again. If we didn't, I'd be pretty damn bored. Cheerio Dusk Chris Paolella US2002045211 From 8ernallysecure at gmail.com Tue Mar 24 08:06:57 2009 From: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com (8ernallysecure at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:06:57 +0000 Subject: [CamRI] IC: Galmi to the Awakened Message-ID: <1030079714-1237907116-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2132951548-@bxe1164.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> if I can do this. I've never actually tried before. It seems like it should work, just like the cell phone trick- that's very handy, I must say. Hm? Oh, right. HELLO MY FRIENDS I HOPE- What? Shouting? But it's written words, they can't see if I'm shouting. ok, very well. Hello, my friends, I hope you are well. I just wanted everyone to know that I will be keeping an eye on this Neighborhood Watch group from a street level. They seem like decent focus, but I'm concerned about the guys that Julian, thatch their point man, the guys he called quote military. Jason was with me and I think heel be watching things from another perspective. He could tell you more. If anyone neebs to reach me, you can call my mobile, it will always reach me. Unless I'm sleeping. So three nights a month I guess yule just have to come find me. My apologies. Take care, my friends. Oh, right. English. Have A Great Day, Jonathan McDowell, Sr. US2002045163 From dimmak at camarillaprovidence.org Tue Mar 24 15:46:06 2009 From: dimmak at camarillaprovidence.org (James A Ruggiero) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:46:06 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] IC: Awakened In-Reply-To: <1030079714-1237907116-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2132951548-@bxe1164.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <16943C3BD4B94DED8CAAC0D4D94B99A0@KOR1> Neighborhood Watch? They seemed like a concerned bunch of sleepers. If anything they have made my patrolling the street easier. Is there anything we should be aware of or are they a cover for something more sinister? -Galmi Jim Ruggiero US2002023492 -----Original Message----- From: camri-bounces at camarillaprovidence.org [mailto:camri-bounces at camarillaprovidence.org] On Behalf Of 8ernallysecure at gmail.com Sent: March 24, 2009 11:07 AM To: CamRI Subject: Re: [CamRI] IC: Galmi to the Awakened if I can do this. I've never actually tried before. It seems like it should work, just like the cell phone trick- that's very handy, I must say. Hm? Oh, right. HELLO MY FRIENDS I HOPE- What? Shouting? But it's written words, they can't see if I'm shouting. ok, very well. Hello, my friends, I hope you are well. I just wanted everyone to know that I will be keeping an eye on this Neighborhood Watch group from a street level. They seem like decent focus, but I'm concerned about the guys that Julian, thatch their point man, the guys he called quote military. Jason was with me and I think heel be watching things from another perspective. He could tell you more. If anyone neebs to reach me, you can call my mobile, it will always reach me. Unless I'm sleeping. So three nights a month I guess yule just have to come find me. My apologies. Take care, my friends. Oh, right. English. Have A Great Day, Jonathan McDowell, Sr. US2002045163 _______________________________________________ CamRI mailing list CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidenc e.org From silentben37 at hotmail.com Tue Mar 24 18:39:47 2009 From: silentben37 at hotmail.com (Tim Brosnan) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 01:39:47 +0000 Subject: [CamRI] IC: Awakened In-Reply-To: <16943C3BD4B94DED8CAAC0D4D94B99A0@KOR1> References: <1030079714-1237907116-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2132951548-@bxe1164.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <16943C3BD4B94DED8CAAC0D4D94B99A0@KOR1> Message-ID: Not sure yet, none have been put to the question. Jason Tim Brosnan > From: dimmak at camarillaprovidence.org > To: CamRI at CamarillaProvidence.org; 8ernallysecure at gmail.com > Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:46:06 -0400 > Subject: [CamRI] IC: Awakened > > Neighborhood Watch? They seemed like a concerned bunch of sleepers. If > anything they have made my patrolling the street easier. Is there > anything we should be aware of or are they a cover for something more > sinister? > > -Galmi > > Jim Ruggiero > US2002023492 > > -----Original Message----- > From: camri-bounces at camarillaprovidence.org > [mailto:camri-bounces at camarillaprovidence.org] On Behalf Of > 8ernallysecure at gmail.com > Sent: March 24, 2009 11:07 AM > To: CamRI > Subject: Re: [CamRI] IC: Galmi to the Awakened > > if I can do this. I've never actually tried before. It seems like it > should work, just like the cell phone trick- that's very handy, I must > say. > Hm? Oh, right. > HELLO MY FRIENDS I HOPE- > > What? Shouting? But it's written words, they can't see if I'm shouting. > ok, very well. > > Hello, my friends, I hope you are well. I just wanted everyone to know > that I will be keeping an eye on this Neighborhood Watch group from a > street level. They seem like decent focus, but I'm concerned about the > guys that Julian, thatch their point man, the guys he called quote > military. Jason was with me and I think heel be watching things from > another perspective. He could tell you more. > If anyone neebs to reach me, you can call my mobile, it will always > reach me. > Unless I'm sleeping. So three nights a month I guess yule just have to > come find me. My apologies. > Take care, my friends. > > Oh, right. English. > Have A Great Day, > > Jonathan McDowell, Sr. > US2002045163 > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidenc > e.org > > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org _________________________________________________________________ Internet Explorer 8 ? Now Available. Faster, safer, easier. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/141323790/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dimmak at camarillaprovidence.org Thu Mar 26 16:54:34 2009 From: dimmak at camarillaprovidence.org (James A Ruggiero) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:54:34 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] FW: [North East Region] Fwd: [Camarilla-announce] Improved MembershipPurchase/Renewal Process Message-ID: For those renewal people. -----Original Message----- From: us-ne-region-bounces at cammail.white-wolf.com [mailto:us-ne-region-bounces at cammail.white-wolf.com] On Behalf Of James Foster Sent: March 26, 2009 3:33 PM To: darkriver at yahoogroups.com; Domain of the Forgotten Hour ME-007-D; OOC list for all members in the NE region; Southeast General Memberhsip OOC Discussion &, Announcement List Subject: [North East Region] Fwd: [Camarilla-announce] Improved MembershipPurchase/Renewal Process ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Wes Contreras Date: Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 2:28 PM Subject: [Camarilla-announce] Improved Membership Purchase/Renewal Process To: camarilla-announce at cammail.white-wolf.com As some of you may have noticed, the White Wolf store got one hell of an upgrade, and the process for purchasing or renewing Camarilla memberships has changed with the new system. I am very, *very* pleased to announce that the new and improved process only requires one step, not two! To renew a membership, just go to the White Wolf store, select "Renew Existing" instead of "New" as the membership type, put in your Cam number (or your friend's number if it's for someone else), and buy it. It will take a business day or two for the transaction to complete, at which point you'll get an email letting you know that it's done. No credits to redeem, nothing to transfer - just one easy step and its done. (Dancing is appropriate here.) http://store.white-wolf.com/Camarilla-Fan-Club-Membership-P5585.aspx You can purchase a new membership in a similar way, but I recommend obtaining a free trial membership and then renewing it, as this gets you an extra six months of time at no additional charge. http://www.white-wolf.com/freetrial.php To seal the deal, the FAQs for the process have now been updated as well. If you see a need for any other questions to be answered there, please drop me a note. http://camarilla.white-wolf.com/usnc/faq.php?cat=30 -- Wes Contreras, US2002022038 ACD: Global Tech cam.global.tech at gmail.com "Play more. Work less." _______________________________________________ Camarilla-announce mailing list Camarilla-announce at cammail.white-wolf.com http://cammail.white-wolf.com/mailman/listinfo/camarilla-announce -- -James Foster US2004102252 CC, Government Denies Knowledge, TN-008-C (TN-011-D) aDST: Reset, TN-011-D (End of the World as We Know It) aVST Requiem: Status, TN-011-D http://cam-wiki.org/index.php?title=User:Umbravenatir {Requiem}{Lost}{Forsaken}{Awakening}{Created} -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: ATT00025.txt URL: From 8ernallysecure at gmail.com Fri Mar 27 07:14:15 2009 From: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com (8ernallysecure at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:14:15 +0000 Subject: [CamRI] Boston Tomorrow Message-ID: <16194252-1238163143-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-936241613-@bxe1164.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Good Morning, There is a chance that I will be attending the Requiem game tomorrow in Boston, although I'll be late. Car is tentatively planning to leave my house at 6:20ish. First 3 respondents looking to join me are welcome. Boston game starts at 6 and ends promptly at 11, there's a site fee, but I forget how much. HAGD, Jonathan McDowell, Sr. Have A Great Day, Jonathan McDowell, Sr. US2002045163 From mrcorvin at gmail.com Fri Mar 27 07:13:18 2009 From: mrcorvin at gmail.com (mrcorvin) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:13:18 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Boston Tomorrow In-Reply-To: <16194252-1238163143-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-936241613-@bxe1164.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <16194252-1238163143-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-936241613-@bxe1164.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <2fcf1c2b0903270713j441a273ama5d6fb136d2e5bb3@mail.gmail.com> Site Fee is 5 dollars. My showing up to my own game will depend on how I feel after I move most of my stuff to my new abode. On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 10:14 AM, <8ernallysecure at gmail.com> wrote: > Good Morning, > > ? ? There is a chance that I will be attending the Requiem game tomorrow in Boston, although I'll be late. Car is tentatively planning to leave my house at 6:20ish. > ? ? First 3 respondents looking to join me are welcome. Boston game starts at 6 and ends promptly at 11, there's a site fee, but I forget how much. -- OOC: Bill Malvasi US2002021749 From dimmak42 at gmail.com Fri Mar 27 09:10:49 2009 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com (James Ruggiero) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:10:49 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Boston Tomorrow In-Reply-To: <2fcf1c2b0903270713j441a273ama5d6fb136d2e5bb3@mail.gmail.com> References: <16194252-1238163143-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-936241613-@bxe1164.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <2fcf1c2b0903270713j441a273ama5d6fb136d2e5bb3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I will definately be heading up... not sure who I am playing yet. On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 10:13 AM, mrcorvin wrote: > Site Fee is 5 dollars. > > My showing up to my own game will depend on how I feel after I move > most of my stuff to my new abode. > > On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 10:14 AM, <8ernallysecure at gmail.com> wrote: > > Good Morning, > > > > There is a chance that I will be attending the Requiem game tomorrow > in Boston, although I'll be late. Car is tentatively planning to leave my > house at 6:20ish. > > First 3 respondents looking to join me are welcome. Boston game > starts at 6 and ends promptly at 11, there's a site fee, but I forget how > much. > > > > -- > OOC: > Bill Malvasi > US2002021749 > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 8ernallysecure at gmail.com Fri Mar 27 09:37:11 2009 From: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com (8ernallysecure at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:37:11 +0000 Subject: [CamRI] Boston Tomorrow Message-ID: <1296015932-1238171718-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-325773866-@bxe1164.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Ooh! Ettore v. Carver- roach master versus splorch killa! May the best bug win! :) (Ettore in three rounds- it's a lock) Have A Great Day, Jonathan McDowell, Sr. US2002045163 From silvergryphon22 at hotmail.com Fri Mar 27 09:40:31 2009 From: silvergryphon22 at hotmail.com (Nadia Ryper) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:40:31 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Boston Tomorrow In-Reply-To: <1296015932-1238171718-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-325773866-@bxe1164.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <1296015932-1238171718-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-325773866-@bxe1164.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: Ettore is a Warlock?!?!? Diana Ruggiero US2003061734 RI-001-D "Comfort the Disturbed and Disturb the Comfortable" > To: camri at camarillaprovidence.org > From: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com > Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:37:11 +0000 > Subject: Re: [CamRI] Boston Tomorrow > > Ooh! Ettore v. Carver- roach master versus splorch killa! > > May the best bug win! :) > > (Ettore in three rounds- it's a lock) > Have A Great Day, > > Jonathan McDowell, Sr. > US2002045163 > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org _________________________________________________________________ Quick access to Windows Live and your favorite MSN content with Internet Explorer 8. http://ie8.msn.com/microsoft/internet-explorer-8/en-us/ie8.aspx?ocid=B037MSN55C0701A -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dimmak42 at gmail.com Fri Mar 27 09:43:21 2009 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com (James Ruggiero) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:43:21 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Boston Tomorrow In-Reply-To: References: <1296015932-1238171718-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-325773866-@bxe1164.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: Death knight's have insect swarm and can dual wield... Ettore does both. Oh he makes Zombies sort of too. 2009/3/27 Nadia Ryper > Ettore is a Warlock?!?!? > > Diana Ruggiero > US2003061734 > RI-001-D > "Comfort the Disturbed and Disturb the Comfortable" > > > > > > To: camri at camarillaprovidence.org > > From: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com > > Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:37:11 +0000 > > Subject: Re: [CamRI] Boston Tomorrow > > > > > Ooh! Ettore v. Carver- roach master versus splorch killa! > > > > May the best bug win! :) > > > > (Ettore in three rounds- it's a lock) > > Have A Great Day, > > > > Jonathan McDowell, Sr. > > US2002045163 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > CamRI mailing list > > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > > > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org > > ------------------------------ > Quick access to Windows Live and your favorite MSN content with Internet > Explorer 8. > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From silvergryphon22 at hotmail.com Fri Mar 27 09:44:34 2009 From: silvergryphon22 at hotmail.com (Nadia Ryper) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:44:34 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Boston Tomorrow In-Reply-To: References: <1296015932-1238171718-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-325773866-@bxe1164.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: Well then...Ettore plays WoW!?!?!?!? Diana Ruggiero US2003061734 RI-001-D "Comfort the Disturbed and Disturb the Comfortable" Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:43:21 -0400 From: dimmak42 at gmail.com To: CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org Subject: Re: [CamRI] Boston Tomorrow Death knight's have insect swarm and can dual wield... Ettore does both. Oh he makes Zombies sort of too. 2009/3/27 Nadia Ryper Ettore is a Warlock?!?!? Diana Ruggiero US2003061734 RI-001-D "Comfort the Disturbed and Disturb the Comfortable" > To: camri at camarillaprovidence.org > From: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com > Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:37:11 +0000 > Subject: Re: [CamRI] Boston Tomorrow > > Ooh! Ettore v. Carver- roach master versus splorch killa! > > May the best bug win! :) > > (Ettore in three rounds- it's a lock) > Have A Great Day, > > Jonathan McDowell, Sr. > US2002045163 > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org Quick access to Windows Live and your favorite MSN content with Internet Explorer 8. _______________________________________________ CamRI mailing list CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail? is up to 70% faster. 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URL: From us2003031415 at hotmail.com Fri Mar 27 11:25:32 2009 From: us2003031415 at hotmail.com (John Tyler) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:25:32 -0400 Subject: [CamRI] Boston Tomorrow In-Reply-To: <16194252-1238163143-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-936241613-@bxe1164.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <16194252-1238163143-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-936241613-@bxe1164.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: I plan on being there as well, though I'll be up early to play Forsaken as well. My best suggestion is parking in Braintree at the T station and taking the T in from there. It costs $7 a day for parking, plus the cost of the T, but is still likely less than you'll pay parking anywhere in downtown Boston. You could also take the commuter rail from Providence for $8 each way (get off at Back Bay station, it's like 2 blocks away from game site), but you'll have to be very conscious of the time at the end of the night (last train to Prov leaves Back Bay at 11:15) as you don't want to get stranded overnight (trust me it happened to me last month and it was only do to the Kitch's generosity that I had a place to stay). ooc: John Tyler US2003031415 RI002D > To: camri at camarillaprovidence.org > From: 8ernallysecure at gmail.com > Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:14:15 +0000 > Subject: [CamRI] Boston Tomorrow > > Good Morning, > > There is a chance that I will be attending the Requiem game tomorrow in Boston, although I'll be late. Car is tentatively planning to leave my house at 6:20ish. > First 3 respondents looking to join me are welcome. Boston game starts at 6 and ends promptly at 11, there's a site fee, but I forget how much. > > HAGD, > Jonathan McDowell, Sr. > Have A Great Day, > > Jonathan McDowell, Sr. > US2002045163 > > _______________________________________________ > CamRI mailing list > CamRI at camarillaprovidence.org > http://camarillaprovidence.org/mailman/listinfo/camri_camarillaprovidence.org _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail?. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dimmak at camarillaprovidence.org Fri Mar 27 12:57:20 2009 From: dimmak at camarillaprovidence.org (dimmak at camarillaprovidence.org) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:57:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [CamRI] April GOTM Weekend of the 18th In-Reply-To: References: <16194252-1238163143-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-936241613-@bxe1164.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <54813.127.0.0.1.1238183840.squirrel@localhost> Are we confirmed for this date? Do we have a location? I'd like to get working on IC premise and such purdy please? -Jim Ruggiero VST Requiem US2002023492